April 28, 2013

Tamerlan: An unambitious pimp

From the Washington Post:
The Tsarnaev family: A faded portrait of an immigrant’s American dream 
... A neighbor who lived next to the Tsarnaev family for five years said the older brother stood out in the early years for his flashy clothes and his devotion to fitness. 
“He used to be more dressed like a pimp, kind of Eurotrash,” said the neighbor, who declined to be named, for fear of being associated with terrorists. “Trying to be fancy, but cheap looking” in pointy-toed shoes and matched track suits. ...
Katherine Russell grew up in a sprawling house on a quiet cul-de-sac in North Kingstown, R.I., not far from the ocean. Her pedigree was New England blue blood: Her grandfather and father both attended Phillips Exeter Academy and Yale. Her father is an emergency room doctor. Her mother is a nurse and social worker. 
Tall and fit, with long auburn hair, Russell graduated in 2007 from high school and soon left home to attend Suffolk University in Boston. She was interested in the Peace Corps and excelled at drawing, winning a state competition. 
In Boston, Russell met Tamerlan at a nightclub, according to her attorney. 
... Russell’s family was startled when she dropped out of college, converted to Islam and began to cover her hair, legs and arms in a show of Muslim modesty. ...
Marriage changed Tamerlan, as well. He dropped the flashy clothes, a change in look so drastic that his next-door neighbor at first thought the tall, athletic son had left town. Tamerlan now came out in the street in raggedy sweatpants and ratty T-shirts, sometimes with a bathrobe over his clothes. 
“I thought a different person had moved in,” the neighbor said.
Zubeidat was arrested last year, accused of trying to steal up to nine dresses from a Lord & Taylor store in Natick, Mass. The couple’s two daughters, Bella and Ailina, moved to New Jersey, where Bella was arrested in December, along with a man named Ahmad Khalil, and charged with possession of and intent to distribute marijuana. ... 
Back in Cambridge, Tamerlan and Russell received welfare payments, just as his parents had in earlier years, the Massachusetts Health and Human Services agency confirmed. 
Finances were tight. ... And in late January, the Tsarnaevs lost the Section 8 housing voucher that had subsidized their rent, according to someone in local government familiar with the case. 
The only steady income at the Norfolk Street apartment came from Russell, who, according to her family’s attorney, worked 70 to 80 hours a week as a home health aide while Tamerlan stayed home with their daughter. 
“He wasn’t really willing to work,” the Russell family intimate said.  

So, basically, Tamerlan was an unambitious pimp who, after he landed one woman to support him, was too lazy to keep up appearances.

Interestingly, an ethnographic documentary featuring Tamerlan's cab-driving second cousin Chic Tsarnaev was made in 1993 by Tracey Ullman. It's quite culturally informative.

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71 comments:

Anonymous said...

"In Boston, Russell met Tamerlan at a nightclub, according to her attorney."

Isn't that the foundation of all successful marriages?

eah said...

startled

I bet! Man, that's gotta be an understatement.

Anonymous said...

She sounds like one of those dim women who, per Steve's theory, accidentally follow the pretend rules ("be open to people of all classes and races") instead of the real rules ("stay in your lane").

Anonymous said...

"So, basically, Tamerlan was an unambitious pimp who, after he landed one woman to support him, was too lazy to keep up appearances."

Realistically though, how many faithful men put the attention they used to put into appearances after they get married? The sports car gives way to the economical vehicle or minivan, aftershave, clubbing shirts, contact lenses, even sometimes hair product all become relics of a forgotten era.

The difference is that most married men do hold down a job.

90s samizdat said...

"She looked like 'I Dream of Jeannie's' mother"--bwahhahaha

Anonymous said...

What's with the Ullmania?

To be fair, she is a gifted impressionist. This is masteful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJszSwr1P7U

Steve Sailer said...

Ullman's Ruby Romaine, the ancient Hollywood makeup lady, had exactly the same accent as my late aunt: its Midwest via Southern California right before WWII. That's extremely precise.

Anonymous said...

What people refer to as "EuroTrash" are often people with ancestry from North Africa or Pakistan / India.

Toulouse Boy said...

An in-depth comparative analysis by Le Monde's Gllles Kepel ...

...inspired by my comment?

Anonymous said...

What people refer to as "EuroTrash" are often people with ancestry from North Africa or Pakistan / India.

"EuroTrash" is any man who rides a bicycle down the road while dressed in lycra.

Luke Lea said...

Interesting scoop in the New York Review of Books of all places:

http://tinyurl.com/bo6hpsw

The comments are more interesting than the story. Here's a sample:

"CatherineFitzpatrick • 13 hours ago −


I appreciate the legwork that Christian Caryl put into getting this story, but I'm not persuaded so far. It doesn't feel right.

For one, the last name literally means "Allah-believer" in Russian, and so it does not seem
to be a typical Armenian or Ukrainian name. We're told it could be the
name of an Armenian in Baku, however.

Is Allakhverdov his real name, or one he adopted after conversion?

For two, there's a legendary KGB chief who was named Mikhail Allakhverdov. Coincidence much? Any relationship? Or is this somebody's idea of a joke?

http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%...

Furthermore, there's the discrepancies in the story. While Uncle Ruslan doesn't say he met him, the Tamerlan's sister's ex-husband said he saw Misha at the house, speaking for hours, and it got the father, Anzor, upset. Then the mother reassured him. Now it seems as if no one saw him at the house? . . ." etc.

Chicago said...

It seems she should have done better considering her background. However, many children of successful, educated people are just not of the same caliber as their parents. Some become druggies, are maladjusted, marry multiple times to strange characters, do all sorts of things that cause their parents grief. It must be really weird to have a full grown daughter with a child walking around the home wearing a hijab. Introducing her as one's daughter must be painful, especially now.

Anonymous said...

Is the Vdare venue a charitable scam?

Truth said...

"So, basically, Tamerlan was an unambitious pimp who, after he landed one woman to support him, was too lazy to keep up appearances."

From where in this story do you derive "pimp?"

heartiste said...

"Realistically though, how many faithful men put the attention they used to put into appearances after they get married? "

The problem isn't usually the husbands failing to keep up appearances. It's the wives:

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700173920/Study-Men-gain-weight-after-divorce-women-after-marriage.html?pg=all

Mark said...

Half the strippers in strip clubs have boyfriends who sound like this.

Assistant Village Idiot said...

Well darn. You can welcome people in and give them lots of money, let them marry into the best families, settle in the best school districts, and give them awards, but a few microaggressions from bigoted white people can just upset everything and turn them into terrorists. It just goes to show how incredibly powerful those microaggressions are, and how we have to use the full weight of culture and government to eradicate them.

Anonymous said...

I feel sorry for the wife's family. Some would say it may have been the way they raised her, but realistically, this could happen to anyone.

Anonymous said...

Evidently the Russell gal comes from a line of Yale graduates. I think her dad is one and is a ER doctor. She toils away as a lowly home health aide. Talk about regressing.

Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEtPluUi0_U

Another way of looking at Tamerlan.

Forgot My Alias Again said...

Wait a minute, I thought she was half Italian, half Portuguese. How in the world does that make her a New England blue-blood?

Kaz said...

@Anonymous 4:59AM

https://www.google.com/search?q=EuroTrash&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS520US520&aq=f&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=orB-UdGPNIPH2wXcg4DYBw&biw=1366&bih=667&sei=sLB-UcqaD6nd2AX-lICADg

Do you know what you're talking about?

peterike said...

The Score.

Game: 1
The Cathedral: 0

Whiskey said...

Steve, now you get Roissy's/Heartiste's point of view. Who was more successful in reproducing? Some cube farm dweller, or a Chechen pimp? Who had the younger, hotter, more intelligent wife who bore him a kid? A dutiful, "nice," law-abiding, middle class White guy? Or the Chechen pimp?

This whole thing is an illustration of female hypergamy and desire. Nice, middle class, dutiful daughters who are tall, good looking, and have solidly middle class parents ... want trashy, dominant, abusive guys who dress like pimps. It was lust at first sight for Russell. No wonder she surrendered herself completely. And worked 70-80 hours a week to support them in poverty as he abused and beat her.

Because the guy was sexy. Even dressing like a slob.

He was scary. Physically dominant (though not a successful pro boxer). But harder and more intimidating than the nauseating supplicating beta males who were nice and kind to Russell and likely disgusted her. Probably talked of killing people all the time around her. See Amanda Palmer, lust dripping off her love poem to the other bomber brother. Not even a famous writer adored by millions can compete with killing little kids.

This is the world of hypergamy ... and no the woman is not unusual. Chechen Pimps and other guys like that have a built in advantage over ordinary guys; being pimp like killers they are sexier.

Whiskey said...

Let me add, most societies have a trade-off. Sexy men, and violent, poverty stricken societies characterized by low-trust, big men, common violence, and a trap of poverty that the society can never climb out of; or non-sexy men who are boring but cooperative, wealth-producing, dutiful, and operate in a high trust environment.

Women do not burn for, or yearn for, non-sexy men who are nice, dutiful, trusting, law abiding, decent, kind, thoughtful, and such. They find repulsive high male IQ, and such. But women burn for guys who are Chechen pimps. Or Chris Brown. Or guys like that.

That is the reality. A society that makes women happy will be poor, violent, but filled with sexy men. The society that is wealthy, trusting, and stable, will make women extremely unhappy and repulsed with its men.

Anonymous said...

The "be open to people of all classes and races" rule is not a pretend rule for me, it's the real deal. That's how we roll in the IE!

Anonymous said...

Evidently the Russell gal comes from a line of Yale graduates. I think her dad is one and is a ER doctor. She toils away as a lowly home health aide. Talk about regressing.

Competition from immigrants and their offspring has severely dimmed career prospects for ethnic Americans.

Anonymous said...

Blue-blood pedigree, perhaps, but not the brains to sustain. Suffolk is for dumb-dumbs.

Anonymous said...

It seems she should have done better considering her background. However, many children of successful, educated people are just not of the same caliber as their parents.

She's well ahead of those in her peer group who remain single into their 30s and who are at risk of growing old without children.

Anonymous said...

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/feds-further-investigating-role-bombers-wife_719130.html

"According to those officials, Dzokhar Tsarnaev told interrogators that the information that set in motion the series of events leading to Tamerlan’s death and Dzokhar’s apprehension came in a phone call from Katherine Russell Tsarnaeva to her husband. “She notified him and there certainly didn’t seem to be any notion of surprise – just a report that ‘you’re being watched,’” said one official with knowledge of the investigation. Tsarnaev had seen the photographs and videos distributed by the FBI on television and called her husband to give him a heads up."

She should be executed too, as an example to stupid bimbos everywhere who marry, aid and abet such criminals.

Anonymous said...

From where in this story do you derive "pimp?"

From the second sentence in the passage quoted from the original article. Seriously, you couldn't even read 2 sentences in?

Anonymous said...

Truth said:

'From where in this story do you derive "pimp?"'

Do you play dumb or are you the real deal?

Anonymous said...

Assistant Village Idiot wrote: "Well darn. You can welcome people in and give them lots of money, let them marry into the best families, settle in the best school districts, and give them awards, but a few microaggressions from bigoted white people can just upset everything and turn them into terrorists. It just goes to show how incredibly powerful those microaggressions are, and how we have to use the full weight of culture and government to eradicate them."

In other words, you can't reform psychopaths. This is an HBD blog, right?

Anonymous said...

o/t, but I see the LA Times Homicide Report has had no data for 2013 - that's four months missing.

http://projects.latimes.com/homicide/post/delays-updating-homicide-report/

"The Times relies on Los Angeles County coroner's officials to provide a list each week of deaths determined to be homicides. Typically, coroner's officials are able to produce the list on Monday mornings; however, conflicts have caused delays for several weeks."

For weeks, read months. Have the LA authorities simply decided not to release any more data on homicides? Can they do that?

Maya said...

So the male ancestors of the girl who fell for obvious trash went to Yale and did well professionally... What about the women in her family?

Could it be that when smart men go for the pretties woman they can marry, their children end up being not the brightest crayons in the box?

She had all the resources one could hope for with an emergency room doctor for a father, and yet she ended up attending Suffolk? I'm assuming it's not because they offered her the best scholarship for her superior brains. Personally, I've always liked boys a whole lot. If you would have asked me how important boys/love/a relationship were to me from 1 to 10, I would have given it an 11. But I don't know what kind of a prolonged torture I'd have had to undergo to agree to drop out of college. It just wouldn't be up for discussion. And that's true for most middle class girls who are at all academically inclined or have the least bit of future time orientation.

This girl is clearly not very smart, and it's not her fault she came out that way. Only the likes of Whiskey could think that a pimp imitating, community college slacker, thug wannabe wouldn't be invisible to an intelligent middle class girl. Whiskey doesn't realize that the Twilight novels are enjoyed only by women who haven't really read much before and aren't going to read much afterwards. Yale daddy or not, a home health aid is, probably, the most suitable career for this woman. And she picked a man of matched her looks, intelligence and ambition.

NOTA said...

There's regression to the mean, and there's also marrying badly--both can happen to well-raised kids, male or female. Marrying a guy who turns out to be a deadbeat once the baby shows up can screw up *any* woman's life.

I wonder if part of the low IQ of criminals comes from this: Lowlife men, the sort who commit a lot of crimes and also sponge off their women, often can be pretty attractive to women with bad judgment. Smarter women, or women with more good sense, will notice that not only is he a good-looking sharp dresser, but he also hasn't held down a real job, and he's always sponging off them.

Over time, you can imagine the bad judgment genes and the criminal behavior genes ending up together a surprising amount of the time. And at the other end of the spectrum, the opposite effect could happen--smarter women with longer time horizons and better judgment figure out they'll be happier with a smart, hard-working guy, even if he doesn't dress like a pimp and live in the gym.

I wonder how you'd test to see if that was happening.

Maya said...

"What people refer to as "EuroTrash" are often people with ancestry from North Africa or Pakistan / India."

That's the style. But a lot of those people immigrated to Europe, and some European youths of the trashy variety try to adopt this look. I've seen plenty of "working class"(ha)French young men who would gel up their hair, hang a bunch of glittery metal on themselves and wear those ridiculous white track suits, trying to look Algerian. Of course, the non-trashy Algerians dressed like human beings and tried to look French...

Middle class imitates the host middle class. Trash imitates the imported trash.

Maya said...

"The "be open to people of all classes and races" rule is not a pretend rule for me, it's the real deal."

Sarcasm aside, it should be the real deal. Amazing, gifted people of high integrity can come from all backgrounds, no matter how unlikely. One should judge individuals by the content of their character. However, when one's too dumb to notice obvious signs of low quality, that's when problems arise. And many people are definitely too dumb.

Here we have all these articles in the media wondering how such unlikely terrorists could have come to be. Meanwhile, Shit #1 had always been a violent attention whore, and Shit#2 was an insecure druggy desperate for approval. Psychologically, could anyone be more perfect for this?

Anonymous said...

This girl is clearly not very smart, and it's not her fault she came out that way.

She has succeeded in reproducing, which is more than can be said for many smart American women. Odds are, she will have someone looking after her, in one way or another, as she grows older. For a lot of American women, those odds are dwindling.

How many children do you have, may I ask?

Anonymous said...

And why all the hate for Eurotrash? Class is of course preferable to all variety of trash, but in today's America, Eurotrash is far easier on the eyes than supersize-me trailer trash.

Anonymous said...

Here we have all these articles in the media wondering how such unlikely terrorists could have come to be. Meanwhile, Shit #1 had always been a violent attention whore, and Shit#2 was an insecure druggy desperate for approval. Psychologically, could anyone be more perfect for this?

Americans have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent foreigners in the past 12 years. How do you explain how such killers could have come to be?

Anonymous said...

Stupid Muslims. They should learn from Jews.

It's much better to be a pimp of politicians than of stupid bimbos.

Better to own the likes of John McCain and Rubio than some dumbass ho.

Anonymous said...

"Could it be that when smart men go for the pretties woman they can marry, their children end up being not the brightest crayons in the box?"

Bingo. The mother's a nurse, looks like she inherited the mother's IQ (and probably looks as well).

Maya said...

"And at the other end of the spectrum, the opposite effect could happen--smarter women with longer time horizons and better judgment figure out they'll be happier with a smart, hard-working guy, even if he doesn't dress like a pimp and live in the gym."

You are making it sound like a compromise, a sacrifice made to day by an intelligent mind in order to secure a better tomorrow. And while I can't speak for everyone, as a twenty-something woman with a college degree, I don't know anyone in my extended social circle who wouldn't be repulsed by a vulgarly dressed muscle head. Those aren't positives, Sir.

Anonymous said...

"Could it be that when smart men go for the pretties woman they can marry, their children end up being not the brightest crayons in the box?"

Bingo. The mother's a nurse, looks like she inherited the mother's IQ (and probably looks as well).


Um, what occupation would you have expected a "smart" mother to have held?

Anonymous said...

Maya, you been 20something for a looooong time.

Anonymous said...

"Over time, you can imagine the bad judgment genes and the criminal behavior genes ending up together a surprising amount of the time. And at the other end of the spectrum, the opposite effect could happen--smarter women with longer time horizons and better judgment figure out they'll be happier with a smart, hard-working guy, even if he doesn't dress like a pimp and live in the gym."

Nice! Someone else has picked up on the point I've been making - the intertwining of traits expressed in one sex and the traits for being attracted to that original trait.

As an example, consider all mammals. They likely all sprang from one original species and evolved over time. The vast majority of humans aren't sexually attracted to mice, lions, or even gorillas or chimps. However, within each species there must be sexual attraction.

Within the species, have a look at wedding photo pictures in newspapers (remember those?). Ever notice how most couples look alike? This is the same effect operating.

And just as you or I are attracted to certain traits that do not involve looks (e.g. IQ, character), so too are other people, and this same effect comes into play. In my limited experience, I've found that Jewish women find smart men sexually appealing. It makes sense given the ages over which their ethno-religion has been selecting for this trait.

I'm sure you have seen the other end of the spectrum at bars, where the violent douchebags get a certain caliber of trashy women who are drawn to them.

Occasionally you do get strange combinations, where relatively unwanted people combine into couples, for example shorter weedy guys sometimes pair with taller women of larger build. In those cases you can sometimes see the children of those pairings having the one body type (e.g. large and muscular) but the attraction for the other body type (e.g. petite). However, this is the exception.*

You can use the general principle in finding a mate, by seeking a mate with similar traits such as IQ, ethnicity, looks, character, build.

* In today's multiracial, PC environment, the "dregs" of society are often the ones that marry outside their race. For every Seal/Klum pairing, there are hundreds of thousands of black guy/white whale combinations inhabiting trailer parks. And it's typically the white guy accustomed to dating his hand that opts for the mail-order bride.

Maya said...

"She has succeeded in reproducing, which is more than can be said for many smart American women. Odds are, she will have someone looking after her, in one way or another, as she grows older. For a lot of American women, those odds are dwindling.

How many children do you have, may I ask?"

Oh, not this tired old argument again. Not to mention the fact that you are not actually responding to what I wrote, but changing the topic entirely.

But if I were to engage you, I'd say that this woman wasn't following a goal to be a mother of a family. If that were the case, she should have waited a couple more years and found a much better father and provider for her children. No, this woman wasn't thinking at all. Any animal can pop out a baby with regularity. That doesn't mean that the said animal would gain the advantage of having more living, successful, well adjusted offsprings, ready and able to provide loving care for both the parent and their own children, when it's time to count the chicken.

Quality over quantity, Sir. Those educated American women you speak of, generally, care enough about their future kids to aim for the best possible father and the best possible environment for them. That takes time. And, of course, it's much harder to convince a worthy man that it's time for him to have kids than it is to get pregnant from some scummy simpleton who is too primitive to consider the consequences. I should know. In my experience, educated middle class men want to put off having children longer than the educated middle class girls.

So, you see, Sir, I'd rather die childless and alone than copulate with an animal, or a mentally handicapped gentleman, or an immature, violent creature who thinks that his masculinity is contained in comically inflated muscles and flashy clothes. Are you really suggesting that a self-respecting young woman should want to waste her precious womb on that, or even consider it better than nothing? My genes are not for merging with scum, and my child deserves a better father. Not to mention that I wouldn't be able to go to bed with a man for whom I have no respect.

And none of this has anything to do with my hope to hold a healthy child in my arms by the end of August. Your personal questions are irrelevant.

Maya said...

"Maya, you been 20something for a looooong time."

I know, almost 8 years now. I heard people can manage it for a whole decade. Wish me luck.

Anonymous said...

"This whole thing is an illustration of female hypergamy and desire. Nice, middle class, dutiful daughters who are tall, good looking, and have solidly middle class parents ... want trashy, dominant, abusive guys who dress like pimps."

Peace Corps girl - white guilt type - completely different.

Anonymous said...

Quality over quantity, Sir. Those educated American women you speak of, generally, care enough about their future kids to aim for the best possible father and the best possible environment for them. That takes time.

And far too many are ending up childless, anguished, and regretful. If we judge by actual results, the "quality over quantity" attitude, such as it is, is turning out to be a losing proposition overall.

But Tamerlan was hardly trash. By most accounts, was a superior athlete and had decent social skills. Tall, dark, and handsome, he was the son of two attractive parents. Apparently, he also had within himself an exaggerated sense of justice and great courage.

Anonymous said...

Dude, Maya's one perfect white child will totally have sixteen kids, you just wait!

The real endgame is grandkids. Plenty of UMC types are having one or two perfect, delayed children (the children aren't so perfect, what with the transcription errors IVF introduces, but what's a little scrambled development between friends?), but they are seeing Chelsea Clinton style dead ends on the grandbaby front.

Grandchildren aren't a perfect proxy for success, but if what you're doing can't even get you grandchildren, it ain't that great.

Anonymous said...

The real endgame is grandkids. Plenty of UMC types are having one or two perfect, delayed children

What is "UMC"?

peterike said...

I've found that Jewish women find smart men sexually appealing. It makes sense given the ages over which their ethno-religion has been selecting for this trait.

True, yet of all groups on earth, Jewish women would be the most vociferous defenders of blank-slatism.


@Maya Amazing, gifted people of high integrity can come from all backgrounds, no matter how unlikely.

True, but that's not the way to bet.

Anonymous said...

But Tamerlan was hardly trash. By most accounts, was a superior athlete and had decent social skills. Tall, dark, and handsome, he was the son of two attractive parents. Apparently, he also had within himself an exaggerated sense of justice and great courage.

He definitely had physical attributes I would assume would be attractive to women. His mother or some relative said he was pretty well built even as a youngster. Yet he was no social butterfly. He himself lamented not having any American friends. Also whatever his attributes he could not make a suitable living. So at the end of the day he was an unsuitable mate for a girl from a line of Yale graduates.

Truth said...

"From where in this story do you derive "pimp?"

From the second sentence in the passage quoted from the original article. Seriously, you couldn't even read 2 sentences in?

"Do you play dumb or are you the real deal?"

Well that's funny, I (again) read 2 sentences in and it reads as follows:

"“He used to be more dressed like a pimp, kind of Eurotrash,” said the neighbor, who declined to be named, for fear of being associated with terrorists. “Trying to be fancy, but cheap looking” in pointy-toed shoes and matched track suits."

From what my 85 IQ can discern, it says nowhere that he "was" a pimp, not even an unambitious one, it says he "dressed like a pimp."

Now, Einstein 1 and 2, maybe you also mistake every fat slob in the mall wearing a Peyton Manning jersey for an NFL QB because he dresses like one, but from what I understand, a pimp is a man that procures sexual services with a woman for another man for money; I read no evidence here that this was the case, again, I defer to your obviously superior intellects here.




Maya said...

"And far too many are ending up childless, anguished, and regretful. If we judge by actual results, the "quality over quantity" attitude, such as it is, is turning out to be a losing proposition overall."

I disagree. While I'd consider it tragic to end up childless and alone, I'd readily choose it over an inferior man and children whose childhood conditions and personal traits make me feel guilty and ashamed of myself. At least loneliness can be dignified, comfortable and guilt-free, even if painful. There is no upside to copulating with those far below you.

"But Tamerlan was hardly trash. By most accounts, was a superior athlete and had decent social skills. Tall, dark, and handsome, he was the son of two attractive parents. Apparently, he also had within himself an exaggerated sense of justice and great courage."

1.Athletic ability is a nice little bonus, like a good singing voice or being good at Dungeons and Dragons. However, it doesn't make a man nor does it make up for defects.
2. The POS's so called social skills wouldn't allow him to fit in or gain the respect of my father, my husband, my friends or anyone else whose opinions matter to me. Judging by his intellectual abilities, he was, probably, terribly boring.
3. Physical appearance is required, but not sufficient for attraction. This pathetic shit ruined his by striving to look as embarrassing as possible.
4. His mother has clear signs of a B-cluster personality disorder.
5. Courage and sense of justice? Are you high? I see a pathetic worm with a pathological need for attention and validation (which he inherited from the mom, it looks like). If he were a girl with the same personality defects, he'd get naked on webcam.

No, seriously, I'd rather be married to a career and a sex toy and adopt a doggy than subject myself to THAT. It would be a life better spent.

Anonymous said...

Really smart women raise their children with their unborn grandchildren in mind.

Anonymous said...

He himself lamented not having any American friends.

Oh, enough already with this. That is according to a single quote in a newspaper feature. Do you trust everything you read in the papers? It is belied by other acquaintances of his.

Maya said...

"Dude, Maya's one perfect white child will totally have sixteen kids, you just wait!"

Well, I'd like to have more than one. In my fantasies, it's more like 4 or 5. But, since it's near impossible to convince a quality man to have more than 2 or 3, nowadays...

Anyway, you are missing the point. I'm not playing a game here. I'm not competing with anyone. My goal is to have the happiest, healthiest, most successful, most well adjusted children possible. I can't imagine compromising my beloved child's quality of life in order to out-breed some insect.

However, I do believe that happy, healthy, successful, well adjusted children are a lot more likely to have good quality children with bright futures of their own than are the neglected children of dumb thugs.

And it doesn't matter if there is more of them. There had always been more of them. It's frighteningly easy to regress and become them within several generations. In a 1000 years, I'd rather have a few descendants who live well, enjoy the new inventions and arts, contribute to them and participate in their world in a meaningful way than thousands of descendants who live like rats and serve as cannon fodder of some sort.

Maya said...

"True, but that's not the way to bet."

It's not the way to bet. But if one doesn't have to bet by having a chance to check out an individual case, one should do so, in my humble opinion. I'd interview a Qu'antarion Guchi Washington, if his resume and cover letter impressed me. It's possible for him to not be an idiot like his mother.

I've taught a few calm, intelligent, respectable boys who had legitimate subhumans for mothers.

Anonymous said...

Eh, you wouldn't be splitting like crazy if you weren't competitive as all get out, Maya. Not that it matters, none of us will ever know if you produced descendants. And I think we all like it that way.

Anonymous said...

"Um, what occupation would you have expected a "smart" mother to have held?"

Something that requires a college degree? Doctor, lawyer, engineer, accountant, something of that nature. The father is a doctor.

Anonymous said...

Truth said:

'From what my 85 IQ can discern, it says nowhere that he "was" a pimp, not even an unambitious one, it says he "dressed like a pimp."'

You're for real.

Anonymous said...

Something that requires a college degree? Doctor, lawyer, engineer, accountant, something of that nature. The father is a doctor.

So what. Nursing and teaching have been very respectable professions for many smart and nurturing mothers. It is, moreover, very common for doctors to marry nurses--and to produce bright, well adjusted children.

Anonymous said...

It was very common for doctors to marry nurses. It still happens, but not as often as before. Doctors are now more likely to marry other doctors.

Anonymous said...

"So what. Nursing and teaching have been very respectable professions for many smart and nurturing mothers. It is, moreover, very common for doctors to marry nurses--and to produce bright, well adjusted children."

True. However, it is very competitive to become a doctor and I would suspect that they are closer to the top 1% of intelligence than the top 10%. They are paid accordingly. Nurses are not subject to such stringent accreditation practices, and if there are nurses that are as smart as doctors it is the exception not the rule.

This does not mean that nurses are bad people, btw.

Anonymous said...

The smarter nurses are going on to PA or NP degrees now, and are still marrying doctors. A lot of less-intellectually talented nurses marry cops, and have for a while.

Big bro dropped out of Bunker Hill Community College, which, Robin Williams in Good Will Hunting notwithstanding, is a glorified high school even for a CC.

The kid definitely took after his crazy mother. Bomb dad took a powder for a reason.

Svigor said...

"EuroTrash" is any man who rides a bicycle down the road while dressed in lycra.

LOL!

From where in this story do you derive "pimp?"

Trooof! Where you been?

Half the strippers in strip clubs have boyfriends who sound like this.

And for a couple bills, you can be their boyfriend for 10 minutes, too.

Yale daddy or not, a home health aid is, probably, the most suitable career for this woman. And she picked a man of matched her looks, intelligence and ambition.

She's probably got Daddy Issues. When children deeply resent a parent of the opposite sex, they often choose partners who are (in obvious ways, at least) as different from that parent as possible. IOW, maybe her marriage to a Muslim 'tard from Dumpistan is her way of getting back at her liberal daddy. Daddy was smart, wealthy, successful, liberal, and *maybe* even had...expectations! Ones she couldn't live up to. Mr. Tardistan was dumb, poor, a nobody, and "conservative," and *maybe* even knew she was too good for him.

pseudoerasmus said...

" What people refer to as "EuroTrash" are often people with ancestry from North Africa or Pakistan / India. "

You stink as an ethnic profiler. Tamurlan, according to the person quoted in the article, dressed in "matched track suits". You cannot scream "native of a former East Bloc country" any louder than matching track suits.

A South Asian, if dressed fashionably, would likely be in a Ralph Lauren getup. If, however, he was British-born and not very well-born, he would be in standard international hip-hop, as would the North African immigrant teen if in France or Belgium.

Anonymous said...

Do we know what religion, if any, Kat Russell belonged to before her conversion to Islam?