November 25, 2013

Knockout Game explained by philosophers from Zeno to Heidegger

Commenter Modern Abraham points out:
Can we just exhaust all epistemic uncertainties right now and be done with it? Thumbing through my History of Western Philosophy, here is a crib sheet for the benefit of the Reality-based Community: 
pre-Socratic: The knockout game is impossible because a fist would have to traverse an infinite number of infinitesimally small spaces just to reach a head. 
Socratic: Those who admit they know nothing about the knockout game are wiser than those who think they do. 
Aristotelian: No man can be called happy until he has died never having suffered the knockout game. 
Scholastic: The knockout game is mentioned in neither the Bible or the Greek philosophers [sic- bad, second-hand translation from Arabic of a bad translation from the Greek] 
Descartes: All I can know for certain is that I am thinking of the knockout game. 
Leibniz: If the knockout game were real, this would not be the best of all possible worlds. 
Hume: That getting punched in the head, blacking out, and hitting the concrete have always tended to follow one other in the past does not mean we ever have grounds to believe that getting punched in the head causes one to black out and hit the concrete (this one's for you, Yglesias!) 
Kant: It is never permissible to lie, even if it is to misdirect knockout game players from their intended victim. 
Hegel: The knockout game is the necessary antithesis to the Trayvon Martin shooting's thesis. Their synthesis will advance the World Spirit. 
Nietzsche: All higher culture is based on the knockout game. 
William James: The point is not whether the knockout game is good or bad, but is it useful? 
Heidegger: To be a victim of the knockout game is to experience true dasein by being thrown into the world and having one's crushed, bleeding temple be finally ready-at-hand instead of just present-at-hand.

125 comments:

FredR said...

That's pretty incredible.

Son of Brock Landers said...

Offtopic: http://www.politico.com/blogs/click/2013/11/cuomo-makes-sexiest-men-alive-list-178329.html

looks like the media is trying to make presidential timber out of Cuomo by cover for his big weakness of being a repulsive Moe Syzlak lookalike. With this and the Elizabth Warren flirtation, the left might be getting cold feet about a soon to be 70 year old with no resume and well out of the game.

Anonymous said...

Knock out now declared a hate crime, but only with selected victims.

Anon.

Anonymous said...

Good stuff. You have some clever readers.

Auntie Analogue said...


Let me rejoin: Hell is other knockouts.

Anonymous said...

My two friends will protect me from the knockout game. Smith & Wesson.

Anonymous said...

looks like the media is trying to make presidential timber out of Cuomo by cover for his big weakness of being a repulsive Moe Syzlak lookalike.

LOL! I just realized he looks exactly like Moe.

jay said...

Jesus Christ: Thank you sir, may have another.

Silver said...

To be or not to be knocked out, that is the question: whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer the fists and boots of outraged Polar Bear Hunters or to take arms against a sea of troubles.

Anonymous said...

looks like the media is trying to make presidential timber out of Cuomo by cover for his big weakness of being a repulsive Moe Syzlak lookalike. With this and the Elizabth Warren flirtation, the left might be getting cold feet about a soon to be 70 year old with no resume and well out of the game.

We can only hope.

tommy said...

Brilliant.

Antioco Dascalon said...

I always try to understand the mentality of these people. (and I don't care that "these people" sounds racist". Imagine that you are ignored, and pushed around your whole life. Then suddenly, just like a super-hero origin story, you transform, seemingly overnight, into someone taller, faster and stronger than those around you. You can see the fear and intimidation in the reaction of others to your new powers. What would you do with your powers?

That is basically the experience of black boys in hundreds of cities every day. One day they are pushed around by their older brothers, sisters, moms, etc and the next thing they know, they are 6 feet tall and full of energy.

Again, imagine that you, right now, are middle aged 5'7" and you feel like you aren't very successful in life. Suddenly, you turn into Shaq in his prime. Might you not experiment with your new strength?

Titus Didius Tacitus said...

John Stuart Mill: the proof that the knockout game is desirable is that "urban" youth do desire to play it.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, I just got back from the future where I've been following this commenter's blog for the past 5 years.

Here's what the Slate headlines look like: "Sorry, conservative bloggers, IQ is a myth."

Space Ghost said...

Thomas Hobbes:

during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called warre; and such a warre as is of every man against every man

That's actually a direct quote and not made up.

Anonymous said...

My two friends will protect me from the knockout game. Smith & Wesson.

Seems they helped this woman too.

Maxwell Power said...

"We have seen the knockout-er, and he is us" --Walt Kelly's "Pogo"

I'm a costume, not a culture said...

AZN equivalent of Knockout King: blogging indignantly about weabo singers

topical yet light-hearted said...

In a recent Tonight Show cooking segment Leno joked to the band about how they'd "like to pound some crackers."

Anonymous said...

John Lennon: All we are saying is give punch a chance.

Anonymous said...

Malcolm Gladwell: To make sure you can KO someone with one punch, you need 10,000 hrs of practice.

Tyler Cowen: Beans have lots of protein and will give you the power to KO someone with one punch.

Sailer: See it this way. US citizens are doing most of this, so it's not so bad from a citizenist angle.

Anonymous said...

Even when blacks attack other races without consciously racial reasons, the nature of the crime is still racial because blacks feel especially emboldened by the knowledge that they are stronger than other races.

It's like most male-on-female violence isn't an attack on women in general but the nature of the violence is still sex-relevant since men attack women with the knowledge that they can easily overpower women.

Anonymous said...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/knockout-game-suspect-charged-hate-crime/story?id=20992590

I guess ABC is part of the 'right-wing' media.

But if this was happening is some other city and the victim was not Jewish, ABC wouldn't care.

Anonymous said...

It began in Hawaii.


Or in the West.

Anonymous said...

I was going to do some 'nasty, brutish, and short (apologies to Mike Tyson)' shtick, but Space Ghost covered Hobbes better.

So let's go downmarket with the great contemporary philosopher William Munny (U. Missouri at Cheyenne):
"Everyone's got it comin', kid."

Gilbert P.

Anonymous said...

I knock out, therefore I am.

dearieme said...

If ever American Jews should change their minds about The Negro Question, what would the consequences be?

Hunsdon said...

Gilbert P., good one. Or, "Deserve's got nothing to do with it."

Anonymous said...

Summa Theologica, Article 666

Concerning The Knockout Game: that it exists.

Objection 1: It would seem that The Knockout Game does not exist, since the blows that struck M. Yglesias did not raise to act his potency for unconsciousness.

We reply:

[Editor's note: at this point, St Thomas' unfinished manuscript breaks off in an indeciferable series of scrawls. Some scholars have speculated that these were the Angelic Doctor's last recorded thoughts before renouncing theology forever as a fundamentally useless endeavor.]

vinteuil

John Derbyshire said...

Let's not ignore the Wisdom of the East:

Taoism: The knockout game that can be spoken of is not the true knockout game.

Confucianism: The Master said: What the superior man seeks is in himself. What the mean man seeks is to knock out the superior man.

Legalism: If the people fear the knockout game, they will be docile, and the nation will be strong.

Chubby Ape said...

Theodor Adorno: To write poetry after Auschwitz is barbaric, to play the knockout game is no big deal.

Anonymous said...

This morning (Tuesday) there is another series of MSM stories claiming "it's a myth" or "overhyped."

Anonymous said...

> Kant: It is never permissible to lie, even if it is to misdirect knockout game players from their intended victim.

No; that is indeed an axiological statement. A real Kantian epistemological statement would read something like this, if non-abstract things weren't beneath herr professor:

If all reality in perception has a degree, between which and negation there is an endless sequence of ever smaller degrees, and if, nevertheless, every sense must have a determinate degree of receptivity for sensations; no perception, and consequently no experience is possible, which can prove, either immediately or mediately, an entire absence of all reality in a knock-out game; in other words, it is impossible ever to draw from experience a proof of the existence of empty space or of empty time. For in the first place, an entire absence of reality in a sensuous intuition cannot of course be an object of perception; secondly, such absence cannot be deduced from the contemplation of any single knock-out game, and the difference of the degrees in its reality; nor ought it ever to be admitted in explanation of any knock-out game. For if even the complete intuition of a determinate space or time is thoroughly real, that is, if no part thereof is empty, yet because every reality has its degree, which, with the extensive quantity of the knock-out game unchanged, can diminish through endless gradations down to nothing (the void), there must be infinitely graduated degrees, with which space or time is filled, and the intensive quantity in different phenomena may be smaller or greater, although the extensive quantity of the intuition remains equal and unaltered.

Anonymous said...

Bhagavad Gita , Chapter 11, Verse 30,

Now I become the knockout game, destroyer of crackers.

K

Anonymous said...

It's like most male-on-female violence isn't an attack on women in general but the nature of the violence is still sex-relevant since men attack women with the knowledge that they can easily overpower women.

That can't be true. After all, the media and Hollywood shows us all those strong women who take out 250lb men.

Anonymous said...

Now it's probably true that the whole knockout game phenomenon is probably a relatively few isolated incidents that have been inflated by media hype. But, in the past, this has never bothered liberals before. Isolated or even entirely fictional incidents like the "Duke rape" or the "right wing gunman" (who almost always turns out to be a leftist nutcase) have been used to tar all white men as demons. The narrative and the "lessons we could learn from it" were much more important than piddling nitpicking questions about what actually happened. But now that the shoe is on the other foot, suddenly they are fastidious seekers of truth and no incident ever quite fits the knockout game profile sufficiently to count.

JeremiahJohnbalaya said...

One knockout is a tragedy. A million knockouts is a statistic.

CK said...

Per Heraclitus: You cannot be in the same knock out twice

Anonymous said...

G.E. Moore: I am more certain that the knockout game exists than I am of the premises of the liberal skeptics' arguments.

(Or: Here is one victim, here is another. Therefore, the knockout game exists.)

Paul Mendez said...

Marx:

"The knockout game is a revolutionary manifestation of the ongoing class struggle between powerless people of color and the white capitalist oppressor class. Young minority men use their fists to symbolically strike out at a national system of institutional racism and economic oppression, thereby reclaiming their self-esteem and asserting their demands for justice."

Oh, wait...

That isn't so funny, is it?

Anonymous said...

Kierkegaard: "Knockout game can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards"

Baudrillard: "The knockout game didn't happen"

Macchiavelli: "It is better to knock out than to be loved, if you can not be both"

Paul Mendez said...

"I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you knocked their punk asses OUT, muthafucka!" - Maya Angelou

d..... said...

"If ever American Jews should change their minds about The Negro Question, what would the consequences be?"

Major and monumental, but that is not likely to happen as long as the political alternative right is so infected with white nationalists and people who blame Jews for everything. Conservative Jews just keep their mouths shut, which allows the leftists to rule the roost.

Meanwhile, it seems that Jews were the least likely to vote for De Blasio in the recent mayoral elections. This is a respectable story that has not been covered by the mainstream press. It was however covered extensively in the Jewish online news outlets. Google it for yourself.

http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/151834/bill-de-blasios-trouble-with-the-jewish-vote

He won among Jews, but the margin was 53-44. De Blasio thrashed Lhota by 50 points. Do the math.

I for one find it interesting. Its meaning may be narrow and relevant only to this election - but still, it means something.

DeB. got 96% of the black vote.

Anonymous said...

Teens are a story of the bravery of knocking out old ladies.

Anonymous said...

Alternate Hume:

"That no testimony is sufficient to establish a [knock out game], unless the testimony be of such a kind, that its falsehood would be more miraculous, than the fact, which it endeavours to establish...

With what greediness are the [knock out game] accounts of [white] travellers received, their descriptions of [young black male] monsters, their relations of [violent games, street crime], and
uncouth manners? But if the spirit of [racism] join itself to the love of wonder, there is an end of
common sense; and human testimony, in these circumstances, loses all pretensions to authority."

Anonymous said...

"..blacks feel especially emboldened by the knowledge they are stronger then other races."

I take exception to that comment. Blacks are certainly more VIOLENT then other races but I don't think they are stronger (assuming it is a fair comparison).

peterike said...

Schopenhauer: I know of no greater absurdity than that propounded by most systems of philosophy in declaring the knock out game to be negative in its character. The knock out game is just what is positive; it makes its own existence felt.

It is the good which is negative; in other words, happiness and satisfaction always imply some desire fulfilled, some state of knock out game brought to an end. This explains the fact that we generally find pleasure to be not nearly so pleasant as we expected, and the knock out game very much more painful.

eah said...

My only thought about philosophy is that it must be really hard to come up with a test to give to a philosophy class.

Anonymous said...

Being black means never having to say you're sorry.

Anonymous said...

polar bear hunting is different from the kog.

pbh is about ganging up on some big white guy. it's not about knocking him out with one blow.

Anonymous said...

http://newobserveronline.com/new-genetic-study-on-skin-color-gene-confirms-aryan-ancestry-in-upper-caste-indians/

panjoomby said...

knockout king's law: "as an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving knockout king approaches 1, you feel me?"

Anonymous said...

Zen Master Takuan: What is the sound of one fist smashing?

Anonymous said...

Black street thugs know that short of killing someone, they will only serve a short sentence for "assault," or may not be arrested at all.

Anonymous said...

Trotsky: You may not be interested in the Knockout Game, but the Knockout Game is interested in you.

Anonymous said...

Residents in NY to get a feeling of what it is like with vibrants running riot:

http://reason.com/archives/2013/11/26/watched-cops-are-polite-cops

Anonymous said...

Hannibal Lecter: First principles, Clarice. Simplicity. Read Marcus Aurelius. Of each particular thing ask: what is it in itself? What is its nature? What does he do, this man you seek?

Clarice Starling: He knocks out crackers...

Hannibal Lecter: No. That is incidental. What is the first and principal thing he does? What needs does he serve by knocking out crackers?

Clarice Starling: Anger, um, social acceptance, and, huh, sexual frustrations, sir...

Hannibal Lecter: No! He covets. That is his nature. And how do we begin to covet, Clarice? Do we seek out things to covet? Make an effort to answer now.

Anonymous said...

OT,

But here is another apparent hate hoax. The lesbian waitress in New Jersey who claimed a family stiffed her on a tip, might be making this up. Check out the new twist from NBC New York.

Anonymous said...

Zen: If you get KO'd but it doesn't make the New York Times, does your skull hitting the pavement make a sound?

Jeff W. said...

Will Rogers: All I know about the knockout game is what I read in the papers.

Anonymous said...

Berkeley: "If a punk ass cracker falls to the sidewalk like a tree in the forest and only WSHH has the video, does it matter if YT makes a sound?"

Ichabod Crane said...

"When we posit a 'knockout game,' this idea can be deconstructed into the illusory metaphor inherent in language."
--Derrida

Anonymous said...

Hundson: "Deserve's got nothing to do with it."

Ha. That's the Munny quote.

Gilbert P

Silver said...

Nietzsche: that which (only) knocks you out makes you stronger.

Silver said...

Stalin (attributed): you can't make an omelette without knocking out a few crackers.

Pat Hannagan said...

As JFK would say:

"And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what the knockout game can do for you; ask what you can do for the knockout game."

E. Rekshun said...

William Shakespeare: To knock out, or not to knock out, that is the question.

Anonymous said...

http://www.cracked.com/article_20775_7-horrifying-things-you-didnt-want-to-know-about-prison.html/

Anonymous said...

I walk, therefore I get knocked out.

Anonymous said...

Hey Steve does this help you resolve your difficulty in figuring out a way of pushing Konishiki in front of the trolley? Just wondering?

BTW, the other day I was walking down Flatbush and not one person tried to knock me out even though I am an easy target.

Silver said...

BTW, the other day I was walking down Flatbush and not one person tried to knock me out even though I am an easy target.

Well, keep trying.

Anonymous said...

Just today, I walked down the streets of Carmel, CA, and was not attacked. What are the chances?

Anonymous said...

"Now it's probably true that the whole knockout game phenomenon is probably a relatively few isolated incidents that have been inflated by media hype. But, in the past, this has never bothered liberals before. Isolated or even entirely fictional incidents like the "Duke rape" or the "right wing gunman" (who almost always turns out to be a leftist nutcase) have been used to tar all white men as demons."

Don't forget that hispanic mestizo with a black great grandfather who's been elevated to being treated as Hitler Reincarnated, and how America is being plagued by an epidemic of white hispanic neighborhood watch captains hunting down black kids with no repercussions.

josh said...

Re 'd' who said we need to make nice with the jews: Wow. Just wow. How could we be any more submissive to these creatures? I was just reading Pats column in Taki re Iran. He quotes Lindsey Graham--is this what you had in mind,he and McCain are quite pro-jewish??--as calling U.S. intelligence liars,we can only get the straight scoop from Israel. The Neo-Cons are all over the GOP & the Right. Your answer is to be even more submissive? How can we get any more jew-loving?? Its always the same answer with re to favored groups:Be more submissive and things will be fine. Blacks? Submissive. Working great. Feminists? Our submissiveness has worked great there too!! Immigrants? We love those hard-working dreamers!

Storied Past said...

This is about all that Academians are good for. Telling us the knockout game either is not real, or is a reflection of growing injustice against blacks or other nonsense. Sitting in an office all day thinking about politically correct horseshit to flex their lib credentials to their superiors. I'll be glad when online courses finally become the straw that broke the camel's back and bring the whole thing crashing down. See how good that degree in 14th century Guatemalan Corncob Shoestyles is when you are competing for a wageslave job at a factory.

Anonymous said...

The Aristotle quote is misplaced. It was actually made by Solon, the Athenian legislator and poet, more or less 200 years before Aristotle lived. You can find the whole story in Herodotus' Histories.

d..... said...

Fake hate receipts.

http://www.thewire.com/culture/2013/11/lets-retire-someone-wrote-something-mean-receipt-story/355538/

RonMexico said...

LL Cool J: "I'm gonna knock you out! Mama said knock you out!"

Anonymous said...

Obamacare is in fact one huge knockout of white America.

Anyone with information about the the perp is encouraged to come forward to the authorities.

Anon.

Svigor said...

"Deserve's got nothing to do with it."

"You just shot an unarmed man."
"He shoulda armed himself, if he's gonna go around trying to knock out strangers."

Svigor said...

Major and monumental, but that is not likely to happen as long as the political alternative right is so infected with white nationalists and people who blame Jews for everything.

I promise I won't move the ball, Chuck. This time you can trust me.

Like anybody ever dissauded the Jews from doing anything they thought was in their interests. If they wanted to, they certainly wouldn't let "ANTI-SEMITES!!!" dissuade them. They'd just build their parallel institutions in short order, the way the US military just drops bases into place. The left's full of "ANTI-SEMITES!!!", they don't slow the Jews down any. The respectable right shuns "ANTI-SEMITES!!!" and "ANTI-SEMITISM!!!" more rigorously than the left does, for all the good it does them (none).

LOL @ your juvenile bullshit.

Gene said...

According to recent stories in Salon and the LA Times the Knockout Game is not a trend, does not exist and is rather a media phenomenon based on dishonest reporting by racists and other members of the right wing media. The truth is, according to the LA Times, it is whites who most often attack blacks, as in the Scottsboro Boys frameup and Central Park Wilding Incidents.

I love to see the old mainstream media come together like this. They are comforting in their utter predictability. Blacks in their view are always the victims and whites are always the perpetrators.

Auntie Analogue said...


How was Jesus's philosophy overlooked?

Here you go:


Blessed are those who conform not to notice what they are not supposed to notice, for they shall inherit the knockout.

Blessed are those who videorecord racist Negroes' knockouts of non-whites for justice's sake, for their recordings shall be officially dismissed.

Blessed are the racism hoaxers, for they shall enjoy massive supporting Enemedia-Pravda coverage, at least until their hoaxes have been debunked.

Blessed are those who knock out, for they shall, one way or another, wind up dead early or doing hard time.

Blessed are those who insist that the knockout game is not a trend, for they perform Oscar-worthy impressions of the ostrich.

Blessed are the flash mobs, for they shall inherit the convenience store.

Blessed are those forced to pay the price of Affirmative Action and Disparate Impact, for, having been deprived of that which they have earned, they could really use blessing.

Blessed are the knocked-out, for they shall see stars.




cyril said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta1KfRX06kA

Monty Python Philosophy Football, Germany vs Greece

Titus Didius Tacitus said...

Hip-Hop Aristotle said: "Knockouts become beautiful when crackas suffer great hits with cheerfulness, not through insensibility but through internalized political correctness."

He also said: "We are what we repeatedly do. Polar bear hunting, then, is not an act, but a habit."

And: "Anybody can knockout somebody - that is easy, but to knockout the right cracka, hard enough to win the game but not hard enough to set you up for a murder rap, and at the right time and for a righteous racial purpose, and with the right punch - that is not within everybody's power and is not easy."


Some other guy with a similar name said: "At his best, man is the noblest of all animals; separated from law and justice he is the worst."

And: "The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal."

That other guy had uncanny insight into 21st Century racial and sexual politics.

Anonymous said...

It be a miracle.

Anonymous said...

Why don't Liberals understand black violence even when they are victimized by it?

Because hitting their heads is to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pMyTMEttd8

Anonymous said...

Whatever happened to the truism "a conservative is a liberal who was mugged by reality"?

I guess it takes more than one mugging and beating. In the 70s and 80s, many liberals saw black crime as a recurring problem, but today, it happens less often, at least to white/Jewish/homo liberals, and so they can see such incidents more as bad luck than as a race problem.

It seems Yglesias feels that the attack on him was an isolated incident and he need not fear such in the future.
He also seems to take pride in acting so rational, even-tempered, and cool, as if to prove that he doesn't blow up a single incident into racial panic.
He may also take pride as a white liberal of profound understanding of the underlying causes for such violence, i.e. black thugs who attacked him happened to be less privileged, so they need to be understood to some degree, if not exactly forgiven. Like Jesus, he turns the other cheek.

But if attacks on him--and his friends and family members--became a regular occurrence, he may be forced to change his mind. But as DC becomes whiter and safer, that doesn't seem likely. He can live in a bubble that is growing ever safer and pleasant for people like him. When I visited DC a few yrs back, I too was much impressed by the changes of so many parts of the city. Much of the city really used to be a dump, but it looks like a whole new place and not just in the touristy places.




Belisarius said...

With great knockout comes great world star hip hop-ability.

-Uncle Ben to Peter Parker

Matra said...

I haven't seen any US TV coverage of the 'knock out game' but this report from Canadian TV briefly mentions a victim's belief there's a racial motivation at the end.

Anonymous said...

Hi Steve, I created a White House petition asking the government to look into the knockout game and related issues. Any publicity much appreciated. It needs 150 signatures at this link before the wider public can view it:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/investigate-nature-extent-and-racial-context-knockout-game-well-its-societal-implications/JKdkTdnY

"Investigate the nature, extent, and racial context of the "knockout game", as well as its societal implications."


The "knockout game" deserves government attention for two reasons. First, the violence appears to have been very widespread for many years, during which the mainstream media ignored or downplayed the problem; this needlessly allowed the game to proliferate. Second, the mainstream media may have ignored or downplayed the problem because it involves a racial angle which the media may be uncomfortable or unfamiliar dealing with, one in which African Americans victimize people of other races, often white people. It was not until October 2013, when Jews in Brooklyn were specifically targeted, that the "knockout game" gained widespread attention (Jews being more easily conceptualized as victims). Related evidence is in incomplete media reports and internet videos that both date back years.

Belisarius said...

Matt wandered, whiter than a cloud,
Gay and high near Capital Hill,
When OMG! A vibrant crowd!
"Be cool, bros- I'm a negrophile!"
The beating hurt, but Matt felt good
Acknowledging THEIR victimhood.

non-philosopher Wm Wordsworth

Maxwell Power said...

Has Nate Silver weighed in on whether the knockout game exists

Jason said...

God knows I’m not a statistician – indeed, I’m horrible at math – but using the report you provided Mr. Sailer as a baseline, here is how I see the issues of KOs. According to Figure 17, for instance, from 1980-2008 about 5 or so whites per 100,000 on average were murdered per year, which in a baseline American population of 270,000,000 would be 13,5000 white homicides a year. According to a line on page 13: “84% of white victims were killed by whites,” which means that 16% of whites were murdered by blacks, or on average 2160 whites a year. Let’s assume for the sake of argument that 10% of those murders were KOs, in which blacks therefore murdered 216 whites out of some racist motive. Such KOs then would amount to 1.6% of all white homicides. How significant is that? Perhaps somewhat, although is it some huge trend? I tend to think not.
Of course, if you were to assume KOs were a much larger percentage of black on white murders – say 50%, or 8% of all white victims of murder, then that would be pretty significant. Lots of luck though trying to determine whether that many murders were truly the result of racism, versus a white victim just having had the bad luck of being a regular crime victim irrespective of race. It seems to me then that the proper attitude towards this issue is one of agnosticism, unless you can really nail down the fact that blacks are truly murdering a large number of their white victims out of racist motives.
Again, like I said, I know very little about statistics (and I’m also doing this in the middle of the night and may be making mistakes), so I’m very open to being corrected.

Anonymous said...

http://www.amren.com/news/2013/11/knockout-games-the-biggest-form-of-cowardice/

Sharpie is part of the rightwing media.

Anonymous said...

Fistivus
maybe we should call it Fistivus--a holiday that one can practice any day of the year--but not in Manhattan or on certain people.

btw Urban Dictionary reveals the word as unused at the moment.

Lex said...

I wonder if Trayvon ever played Knockout Game or whether Zimmerman was ever victim of it.

Anonymous said...

"Deserve's got nothing to do with it."

"You just shot an unarmed man."
"He shoulda armed himself, if he's gonna go around trying to knock out strangers."

It's the script that just keeps giving. Josey Wales would do nicely too.

Gilbert P.

E. Rekshun said...

"...blacks feel especially emboldened by the knowledge that they are stronger than other races."

Not true. All the participants in the Strong Man competitions are White - often East European and sometimes South African.

Anonymous said...

"Power and knock-out game are opposites; where the one rules absolutely, the other is absent. Knock-out game appears where power is in jeopardy, but left to its own course it ends in power's disappearance.” -Hannah Arendt

Anonymous said...

Myley Cyrus's Wrecking Ball:

"I came in like a wrecking ball
I never hit so hard in love
All I wanted was to knock you out
All you ever did was oppress me
Yeah, you oppress me"

Damn, the stuff writes itself.

Anonymous said...

435 Much Madness is divinest Sense
by Emily Dickinson

Much Madness is divinest Sense —
To a discerning Eye —
Much Sense — the starkest Madness —
'Tis the Majority
In this, as All, prevail —
Assent — and you are sane —
Demur — you're straightway dangerous —
And handled with a Chain —

Robert Hume

Anonymous said...

Salt Lake City is like Denmark, Mobility-Wise

http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/social-mobility-memos/posts/2013/11/26-social-mobility-trends-thankful-for-reeves

E. Rekshun said...

Voltaire: "I may disagree with knockout, but I will defend to the death your right to knockout."

Neil Young: "Hey, hey, my, my, knockout game will never die!"

Anonymous said...

sucker punch

garyinfh said...

Dennis: Now we see the violence inherent in the system.

Anonymous said...

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2013/11/doctor-shekel-and-mr-blair-jewish-wealth-promotes-gibbering-immigration-insanity-in-the-uk-and-the-us/

Where Jews are the majority, they are for nationalism, identity and pride, border patrol,heritage, and gun rights.

Where Jews are the minority, they are against the nationalism, identity, and gun rights for the majority population as such might challenge the power of elite Jewish overlords.

This seeming contradiction is actually a consistency since both agendas serve Jewish power and interest. But dimwit goyim just don't understand for their IQs are lower than that of cunning Jews.

Sean said...

Jesus:'Whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also'

Nietzsche:'Jesus taught us that with a plenitude of the holy spirit,no one could knock us out; "try the other side". But Christianity turns this into despicable meekness. To play the knockout game as if there was no meaning in the knockout game, that becomes the meaning of the knockout game'.

Sean said...

Derrida:'The gap where the white boy's front teeth were signify opening to the toute autre knockout.'

Anonymous said...

Stalin: Knock-out is the solution to all the world's problems. No consciousness, no problem.

Another: A single NY knock-out is a tragedy. Better not trouble yourself about statistics, see above.

Anonymous said...

Lenin: Man’s consciousness not only reflects the objective world, but creates it.
Corollary: If you didn't get KO'd, it's all in your head. If you did, what is the problem?

Glossy said...

"Enemedia..."

The French sometimes say "merdia" in such contexts.

Hunsdon said...

svigor quoted: "You just shot an unarmed man."
"He shoulda armed himself, if he's gonna go around trying to knock out strangers."

Hunsdon said: Ha!

Alan D said...

Winston Churchill: "We shall be knocked out on the beaches, we shall be knocked out in the streets, we shall be knocked out in the parks, we shall immediately surrender".

Anonymous said...

Brecht: "Imagine there is a knockout game and nobody shows up."

Anonymous said...

Lenin: "Who [knocks out] whom?"

Mao: "Power comes from the knuckles of a fist."

Silver said...

Clausewitz: the knockout game is merely the continuation of politics by other means.

Anonymous said...

Ask not how this country can knock you out, ask how you can knock out this country.

Silver said...

Jefferson: nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate than that these people are to be knocked out.

Anonymous said...

blacks feel especially emboldened by the knowledge that they are stronger than other races

Knowledge doesnt come into it. At some level they are aware that they are allowed to get away with such activities.

Why?

Because most white people, in turn, are aware that any unpleasant interaction with blacks will be viewed through the lens of racism. With them as the bad guy. Its drilled into whites 24/7.

When it comes to violence it means less willingness to defend themselves, to accuse their attackers and so on. eg. One wrong word at the time (or 20 years earlier) damns them as the true aggressor

olde Anglo-Saxon proverb said...

Knock me out once, shame on me

Maxwell Power said...

Knock a man out and you're a hip-hop world star for a day.

Teach a man why you knocked him out and he'll write absurd liberal themes about it for a lifetime

Anonymous said...

Silver wins the thread w/ Clausewitz quote.

On the money.

E. Rekshun said...

@Anon: "blacks feel especially emboldened by the knowledge that they are stronger than other races

Knowledge doesn't come into it. At some level they are aware that they are allowed to get away with such activities. Why? Because most white people, in turn, are aware that any unpleasant interaction with blacks will be viewed through the lens of racism."

Yep, exactly. This situation also applies in regard to job performance in the work place.

Anonymous said...

If you punch us do we not bleed? If you kick us do we not get hospitalized? If you stomp on us do we not die? And if you wrong us shall we in the left-wing media not admit that it ever happened?
-- William Shakespeare

The tree of negrophilic liberalism must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of racist white knock out game victims.
-- Thomas Jefferson

Knock out game is ninety percent mental and the other half is physical. -- Yogi Berra

Whistling tunes we're kissing baboons in the jungle
It's a knockout.
If looks could kill,
they probably will
In games without frontiers,
war without tears
-- Peter Gabriel

Knock out game is not real.
Race is not real.
Loony left-wing media: is it for real?
-- author unknown

Knock, knock!
Who's there?
What?
What who?
What girl bleed a lot.
Quick! Somebody call up the NYT or Slate so that her injuries can be declared mythological.