Offer free plane and bus transportation back home to every illegal immigrant in the U.S. Being unemployed in Mexico is a lot cheaper for all concerned than being unemployed in the U.S.
Do it right now. We could call it the:
I'll Be Home for Christmas planThe government should set up booths at Greyhound stations. All an illegal immigrant has to do is walk in with his luggage, get fingerprinted and photographed, sign a legally binding document that he won't be coming back and will go to jail if he does, and he'll be on his way home on the next bus with a $100 gift certificate usable at some chain store that only operates in Mexico.
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Does the unemployment rate take into account unemployed illegal aliens?
Why would the Democrats send away perfectly good voters?
"Does the unemployment rate take into account unemployed illegal aliens?"
It doesn't even take into account unemployed citizens. It rounds out a guess, based on guesses:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/12042008/business/its_time_to_end_monthly_employment_repor_142499.htm
"Why would the Democrats send away perfectly good voters?"
Because they won't let gays get married in California. They don't even go to musicals.
thanks for the naive two birds with one stone solution to america's unemployment and immigration 'problems'.
dream on sailor! these so called 'problems' are created deliberately by our elites. it is naive to think that our elites are averse to high unemployment. the elites are only averse to one thing: an empowered bourgeois middle class.
in 'undeveloped' countries around the world the unemployment rate is chronically much higher than in the united states. now the united states is in the process of becoming an 'undeveloped' country and therefore it too will exhibit a high unemployment rate as part of the 'new normal'.
and as part of the same trend the democratic party energetically cultivates the illegal immigrants as a bloc in order to shift the entire american electorate generationally to the left. the last thing the left wants: illegal immigrants and their offspring and future chain migration to exit the country and exit the voter pool.
so get real sailor! another massive amnesty push is coming in 2009. and directly into the teeth of an economic depression! that is how arrogant and powerful our elites are today. they will force the 'reactionaries' to sit there and take it!
yes the elites will force us to vote on amnesty over and over again until it passes...it's the same elite modus operandi employed in california (years ago prop 187 and today gay marriage) and also in europe (lisbon treaty votes to force sovereign nation states into the european union).
the marxists have learned from their mistakes and they have retooled and refined their attack. many long nights of debate and dialog and bull sessions have taken place over the years and the left has dispensed with the crude techniques of the old days. they have evolved.
allowing the popular vote to take its place as the fulcrum of a modern society instead of suppressing the vote or eradicating the vote is the key transformational change between primitive 1910 marxism and modern 2010 marxism. and that change is nothing less than the difference between success and failure.
the socialists have won the struggle for control sailor! and in the future the only people getting arrested will be the reactionary sailorites...not the protected class of undocumented workers!
It really is something to behold when you go through a drive-thru to order a hamburger, you now see that about half the resturaunt staff at your local Wendy's and McDonalds are Hispanic, when the black unemployment rate remains so high.
I was driving by a hotel construction site (a small-to-mid-size five-or-six-floor number with about 100-150 rooms) like a Holiday Inn Express, etc. The work crews were getting off work and getting in their trucks. Every one of them was hispanic. 15 years ago every one of them would have been white or black, but those men have been priced out, and have to do other things now for a living.
This is what is so stultifying about Obama, Jackson, Sharpton, and a host of other "black activists". We have knocked the bottom off of blue collar-wages in construction, fast food, and many other entry-level jobs by having so many immigrants with low skill levels. This leads to unemployment of young black and working class white males who would be getting their start in the work force.........but are either unemployed or sacking groceries instead.
Both parties seem to be in some kind of race to do whatever hurts the working middle and working lower classes the most. Its amazing. Things are so different from 1990.
about half the resturaunt staff at your local Wendy's and McDonalds are Hispanic, when the black unemployment rate remains so high.
My experience everywhere I've lived is that Mexican service workers are superior in every sense to blacks, particularly in people skills.
Illegal aliens don't vote. Only citizens can vote.
Wm Jas:
Well, we'll just have to change that, then.
Steve - At least half of the economics profession will shout and scream loudly about something called 'the lump of labor theory' (funny how they always have a pat little phrase or 'theory' ready at hand),and denounce you as economically illiterate and not knowing anything about how 'there isn't a fixed amount of work available in any society', gosh how those people know how to shout and scream and kick up a stink and denounce everyone as ignorant.
Strange, but I always see the situation as analogous to the folly of importing more hungry mouths in a famine stricken region - but in saying this I would be condemned as 'knowing nothing about economics'.
That is the current state of the debate.
"My experience everywhere I've lived is that Mexican service workers are superior in every sense to blacks, particularly in people skills."
You're right. But the blacks are citizens and you would think that our elected representatives would look after the interests of their fellow citizens, those who elected them. Apparently PC is too strong, even for the black caucus. We'll see if the President who wrote that he was in it to benefit his people will turn the tide.
anonymous,
Would you please use some friggin' capital letters?
Unless you are texting from your cell phone, this is nonsense.
Your crap is impossible to read... so I don't read it.
illegal aliens come because they are hired. if no one is hiring, then they won't come and the ones already here will go home when their employer goes out of business. that's the market solution, and really it's the easiest one.
"Anonymous said...
The work crews were getting off work and getting in their trucks. Every one of them was hispanic. 15 years ago every one of them would have been white or black, but those men have been priced out, and have to do other things now for a living."
Yeah, "other things".....like stealing X-boxes, robbing gas stations, and cooking Meth.
I agree with Anon, sadly. If the elites had middle class interests at heart, the invasion mess would not have been allowed to happen in the first place. Now that they're here, They are'nt going back unless THEY want to. Interesting aside: several years ago someone (Sailor?) posited a similar idea for France and their invasion problems. Simply give each family a large chunk of cash a tickets back home in exchange for a promise not to return. The thinking being that the costs to the public coffers would be less strained by sending them all home in one go, than to have them stay, grow and live off the public teat for the forseeable future. Everyone would be happy...except our rulers.
We have knocked the bottom off of blue collar-wages in construction, fast food, and many other entry-level jobs by having so many immigrants with low skill levels. This leads to unemployment of young black and working class white males who would be getting their start in the work force.........but are either unemployed or sacking groceries instead.
One could argue that for whiter people types, those young black and working class males shouldn't be in jobs "reserved" for immigrants, but they should all go to college to become white collar employees living what they would deem to be a proper middle class style. Hence the desire to send as many black people to college and the bias against blue collar whites aren't living up to their "potential" as white people.
My experience everywhere I've lived is that Mexican service workers are superior in every sense to blacks, particularly in people skills.
That's generally been my argument towards race realists about this issue. They want to chase away the cheaper Mexican labour that seems to work harder and provide better customer service. Black labour is generally deemed to be expensive and inferior to white labour, hence why it's generally avoided at all costs, while white labour is just simply too expensive in general unless high quality is demanded. So instead of having factories with illegal immigrant labour paying some witholdings that they'll never collect, we'll end up with factories in Mexico staffed with Mexican labour there, but no effective change in unemployment. The same is true for why call centers have been sent off-shore. Intelligent whites need at least $25 to show up, blacks aren't worth the cost, so we send the work to smart Indians and Filipinos who will work for $5/hr with glee.
Hell, I know native born and immigrant black people who prefer to use Mexican labour over most native born black labour because its relatively skilled, willing to work for cheap wages (i.e $10-$20), and will do a day's worth of labour without much trouble.
On a related note, I suspect that some of the boom in housing prices is due to Mexican labour making home renovations so much cheaper that families bought higher grade materials for kitchens, bathrooms, and other rooms in the home which pushed up home values. A fifty year old home with the latest in granite countertops, expensive kitchen appliances, hardwood floors, and new style showers is bound to have more value than the same home stuck with cheap 1980s materials or its original 1950s accoutrement. Just look at the boom of HGTV shows during the same period dedicated to renovating a home on a big budget which I suspect was financed via liberal credit and home equity loans that offered cheaper rates than credit cards.
"he'll be on his way home on the next bus with a $100 gift certificate usable at some chain store that only operates in Mexico."
That could probably easily be arranged with Walmart's WalMex subsidiary.
- Fred
That's generally been my argument towards race realists about this issue.(that Mexicans are better workers than blacks) They want to chase away the cheaper Mexican labour that seems to work harder and provide better customer service.
That amounts to selling out our future for less surly service at Burger King. What's more, the black worker who is displaced does not cease to exist - he either goes to work somewhere else or is pushed out of the workforce entirely, where he is likely to do something worse than not properly drain the fryer grease.
If the elites had middle class interests at heart, the invasion mess would not have been allowed to happen in the first place
I don't know where you live, but in my area of New York, the middle class pay illegal immigrants to do landscaping and construction work, so I'd argue that even the middle class benefits as well. I also suspect that they benefit from the cheap labour that they provide at places like McDonalds or various restaurants which allow for lower prices and fatter margins.
Better working class jobs are destroyed by largely hispanic immigrants.
But many of those middle class folks dancing for joy over their cheap gardeners and builders are having their jobs trashed by asian immigration and outsourcing.
I don't know where you live, but in my area of New York, the middle class pay illegal immigrants to do landscaping and construction work, so I'd argue that even the middle class benefits as well. I also suspect that they benefit from the cheap labour that they provide at places like McDonalds or various restaurants which allow for lower prices and fatter margins.
The same is true in Philadelphia and DC.
I think confusion arises as a result of a tendency to use the phrase "middle class" to apply to everyone who is neither rich nor poor. But there is a huge gulf between white-collar, college-educated people--that is, those who are classically middle class--and blue-collar people, who are classically termed working class.
I don't know how anyone can argue that the former group has not benefited economically from mass immigration. It is the latter group that has suffered, especially at the lower end.
It's disingenuous to claim that immigration damages "the middle class" when people with household incomes in the 50th-80th% percentile range--that is, the actual middle class--have probably ended up with more rather than less money because of it. With or without immigration, none of them would be doing manual labor or unskilled service work; but they buy a lot of unskilled labor, directly or indirectly, and benefit from the current low cost of same.
"Anonymous said...
I also suspect that they benefit from the cheap labour that they provide at places like McDonalds or various restaurants which allow for lower prices and fatter margins."
And fatter people, too. These benefits (cheaper labor) are only benefits in the sense that a heroin rush is a benefit, however briefly. Still, in the long run, it's not so good to become a junkie.
I think there's a pattern to the whole difference in employee quality between illegal immigrants and underclass Americans, and it's pretty fundamental. If you end up poor in Mexico, El Salvador, Guatemala, etc., it's quite likely that this isn't because of anything you do or any fundamental inability on your part. Instead, you just grew up in a poor country, or a poor part of a reasonably well-off poor country, with little education and few jobs available. It's just something that happened to you.
Now, move to a first world country like the US. For the most part, if you grew up here and are seriously poor, there's a reasonable chance that it's because of your own bad choices or habits, or because you're lacking something--maybe you're not too bright, maybe you've got some kind of mental illness, maybe you've got a drug addiction.
Now, you're an employer. The probability that a random just-across-the-border Mexican who wants to work some bottom tier job is a hopeless f--kup is, say, 1%. The probability that a random black or white American who wants to work some bottom-tier job is a hopeless f--kup is maybe 10%. Who do you choose to hire?
I don't know the real percentages, obviously. But I think the basic model here works--the 40-year-old Mexicans who want a bottom-tier job at McDonalds are in that job market because they're illegal immigrants from a poor country. The 40-year-old Americans who want a bottom-tier job at McDonalds are in that market because they're f--kups--they're just out of prison, or they can't seem to keep sober long enough to keep a decent job, or they've got mental health issues that make it hard for them to work, or whatever.
I don't know where you live, but in my area of New York, the middle class pay illegal immigrants to do landscaping and construction work, so I'd argue that even the middle class benefits as well.
Peronally, I look forward to raking my lawn on a cool Saturday morning in Autumn. But I know a few residents of my middle class neighborhood who pay Latinos with a leaf blowers to take of of their yards. I usually see those neighbors out jogging. It really makes no sense.
"dream on sailor! these so called 'problems' are created deliberately by our elites. it is naive to think that our elites are averse to high unemployment. the elites are only averse to one thing: an empowered bourgeois middle class."
Bravo! Prescription drugs, illegal immigration, stupid television, the proliferation of televised sports, media blowhards,trumped-up racial and sexual squabbles all intended to make the US populous stupid, dependent and satisfied which in turn leads to less competition for The Cabal.
"That's generally been my argument towards race realists about this issue. They want to chase away the cheaper Mexican labour that seems to work harder and provide better customer service. Black labour is generally deemed to be expensive and inferior to white labour, hence why it's generally avoided at all costs, while white labour is just simply too expensive in general unless high quality is demanded. "
You'd have a good point if we could just simply trade blacks for Mexicans, like some sports GM, and improve our country.
But as someone else already pointed out, those blacks are still here and in the long run Mexican genes bring crime and welfare and better food service doesn't make up for it.
So teach your middle class progeny of whatever race to speak Spanish and understand what makes people from Oaxaca tick. Someone is going to have to employ all those workers. Treat them well and they will be loyal to you.
The big mistake people like no-capital-letters anonymous makes up there is thinking that the commies haven't degenerated along with everyone else. While they're sitting in boardrooms sublimating their endocrinally disrupted sexual desire into nicely arranged agenda items and sublimating their aggression into their sick sad "marriages," a world they do not understand well enough to manipulate is going on without them. Commies used to know the lower orders. They don't anymore. They don't know anything but symbol manipulation, and the symbols they manipulate barely correspond to anything real.
The way you people complain you'd think that the Mexican invasion was an invasion of Zulus or something. IT'S MEXICANS. THE WORST THEY DO IS LITTER. And they speak a Romance language with a regular grammar. Accept them as the best possible parasite which will function to prevent some really horrific possibilities. If you didn't want them coming north, you should have had more children.
The way you people complain you'd think that the Mexican invasion was an invasion of Zulus or something. IT'S MEXICANS. THE WORST THEY DO IS LITTER.
No, the worst they do is vote for officals who are capable of doing absolutely anything up to and including our genocide.
wongba said
illegal aliens come because they are hired. if no one is hiring, then they won't come and the ones already here will go home when their employer goes out of business. that's the market solution, and really it's the easiest one.
Mickey Kaus doesn't agree.
How are they gonna try to inflict this genocide? With Mexicans. What are the Mexicans going to do, litter you to death? Distract them with TV shows. They will not make a large enough pile of trash to kill you with.
Look, I am seriously bummed that my home state has become Aztlan. I miss going to parks and the beach without having to listen to oompah music. I am saddened by the general enstupidification and lack of aesthetic sense apparent everywhere in California. But get some perspective.
"The way you people complain you'd think that the Mexican invasion was an invasion of Zulus or something. IT'S MEXICANS. THE WORST THEY DO IS LITTER."
The families of 10s of thousands of rape and murder victims would disagree.
Hispanics are 3.3 times more likely to be in prison than whites; they are 4.2 times more likely to be in prison for murder, and 5.8 times more likely to be in prison for felony drug crimes.
Young Hispanics are 19 times more likely than young whites (and slightly more likely than young blacks) to be in youth gangs.
Steve I think this was your idea of a joke. First only 56% of the illegal immigrants in this country are from Mexico. Two, if we returned all of those immigrants if would probably bankrupt the country. We tried deporting a mass group of people before and it didn't work. Besides the failure of Liberia and Isle of, Lincoln was smart enough to know that deporting newly freed Africans would have bankrupted the country.
f we returned all of those immigrants if [sic] would probably bankrupt the country
Thus spake the economics expert.
Right. Getting a bunch of externalities-riding $3/hour criminals to leave the country would bankrupt it. The only solution must be - what? Wait - I know! Amnesty! Let 'em keep staying here helping to continue bankrupting the country.
Liberia turned out really well, didn't it? Too bad we got rid of all those capable people. It resulted in a Great Depression here which...except it didn't.
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