I was hoping that this special prosecutor lady in Florida would bring some reassurance that George Zimmerman isn't being railroaded due to racial hatred and hysteria. I don't know what exactly happened that night and I don't know what should happen next. So, I was a good target audience for her.
I'm a natural born chump when it comes to trusting authority figures. You don't have to do much to get me to give you the benefit of the doubt ... Yeah, I may try to sound like a hard-boiled cynic, but that's because I've been played the fool so often. My natural disposition is naive and trusting.
I'm a natural born chump when it comes to trusting authority figures. You don't have to do much to get me to give you the benefit of the doubt ... Yeah, I may try to sound like a hard-boiled cynic, but that's because I've been played the fool so often. My natural disposition is naive and trusting.
All Ms. Corey would have needed to do to get me on her side is start off with some boilerplate about how this is a very complex case, and there has been much misinformation in the media, but a careful review of all the evidence has led her to decide, after careful consideration, that the state must go ahead with the prosecution. Maybe hint that there are pertinent facts that aren't in the public domain.
But, hoo boy, this speech of hers is not at all reassuring to a Martin-Zimmerman agnostic like myself. Here's the opening paragraph:
Good evening everyone. I am Angela Corey, special prosecutor for the Trayvon Martin case. Just moments ago, we spoke by phone with Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton. Three weeks ago our prosecution team promised those sweet parents we would get answers to all of their questions, no matter where our quest for truth led us.
I was hoping for some gravitas, but instead we get a character out of a Dave Barry column on Florida politicians.
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Yes, that's how I felt.
In your other thread I posted that I couldn't buy her impartiality when she came out smiling and continued to smile as if she were saying to all the black people who were sitting in the first row, "See, I am so happy to please you."
What black juror would ever have to guts to say "not guilty"? What other jurors won't fear for their lives if they wish to render a "not guilty" verdict?
Seems many bloggers don't think this new attorney knows his stuff at all.
Didn't she also say (later) that she and others on the prosecution team had held a prayer session with Martin's lawyers and family?
An embarrassment to Florida law
It may be that she is positioning self for higher office. Cases like this are springboards!
Wow, the media's giving Zimmerman worse press than Omar Thorton and Choi Seung hee combined.
"It may be that she is positioning self for higher office. Cases like this are springboards!"
Ha, I was just about to say the same thing. Either that, or her own show on Headline News.
"I was hoping..."
Still hoping? In this day and age?
The praying she had with Ben Crump and the Martin family was also pretty strange.
Though I suppose in a world where Eric Holder is giving speeches in front of Sharpton's group, nothing should surprise you.
She's says at the end there to pray for her team Trayvons family.
Also not reassuring is the quality of his new attorney.
I don't see how he can possibly get a fair trial or an impartial jury. The media has poisoned the case. Even without sensationalism and racial tensions, the sheer saturation of media coverage has tainted any objective perception of him or the events that occurred. If he does get a not guilty verdict, he will probably have to leave the USA for good. I can't see him having any kind of life here. And if there is such a verdict, expect black rioting and mob violence. Get a gun and be wary, especially if you live anywhere in the immmediate area. Don't be the next Reginald Denny. He should never have stopped his truck.
Without even reading the text of her speech, I knew what a panderer she was. Look at the necklaces and the outfit she chose to wear! It was all about Angela.
So,
If double jeopardy attaches in a state court, does that also prevent the feds from trying him for the same charges?
Also, can the prosecutor appeal to the supreme court if she is defeated in state court?
This case illustrates why grand juries should be required. I think the grand jurors can be anonymous, and tho it's easy to get a halfway-legitimate case past a grand jury, there's a limit to what ordinary people, not subject to political or career pressure, will do.
"We thank all of you who have sent positive prayers and energy our way. We ask you to continue to pray for our team as well as Tracy and Sybrina and the rest of Treyvon's family."
So keep those positive energy waves coming in. Light those incense sticks, bang that gong, meditate on the healing crystals and pray, pray, pray every day for justice for Treyvon!
Well, consider the cost-benefit calculation...
If you take one side of this issue, the MSM insults you, the Black Panthers threaten to kill you, Spike Lee publicizes your home address, and maybe a bunch of blacks riot and burn down your city. Also, National Review's Rich Lowry writes another editorial saying he agrees with Al Sharpton that you're a "vile racist."
If you take the other side of the issue, some people grumble at home and maybe a few anonymous bloggers insult you on obscure websites.
Tough choice!
It seems to me that one way or another, our current national trajectory won't much change until there's a much more equal "balance of terror"...
"Seems many bloggers don't think this new attorney knows his stuff at all."
It appears Zimmerman has dumped a competent legal team that had a very good handle on what happened for some numbnut.
What gives here?
Whatever happens, all this rage isn't helping Obama. It's making a lot of people nervous.
The gov also referred to this case as the "Trayvon Martin tragedy", an impartial term if ever i've heard one. Hopefully the jury will see through this pandering, and it will backfire.
Derbyshire: "Would I like to offer some kind of sniveling apology for the piece? In your dreams, pal. I haven’t sniveled since about 1952, and I’m too old to reacquire the habit. I say what I think, and I’m very much obliged to Taki’s Mag for letting me do so. If you don’t like the kinds of things I say, there is a very simple remedy available to you: Don’t read me."
THE DERB IS MY HERO!!!
i'm getting a mike nifong vibe here.
From Dr. King to Rodney King.
From Dr. Martin to Trayvon Martin.
But then the real MLK was some punk.
One advantage of more diversity is there's more black vs non-white problems.
Whites should sit back and watch this black/brown fiasco.
Gainesville man beaten after men shout "Trayvon"
Black lynch mobs forming not just against Zimmerman but everyone. Maybe this summer, a whole bunch of youths and teens will go rioting hollering Trayvon.
I think that's kind of standard for prosecutors. They're advocates for a side, not anything like impartial arbiters.
RKU, are the NBP anything more than a joke which get disproportionate media coverage? Because that's my impression.
We're coming up on the 20th anniversary of the LA riots, in case anyone has forgotten. The implication seems to be that we risk a repeat if everyone doesn't kowtow to the wishes of the lynch mob out there. Thirteen percent of the population can intimidate and threaten everybody else with violence and get away with it, it seems.
I see where some of Obama's sons just murdered two Chinese USC students in LA. Where's the outrage?
Why is this book being ignored by most reviewers?
Leak: Why Mark Felt Became Deep Throat
"It appears Zimmerman has dumped a competent legal team that had a very good handle on what happened for some numbnut."
I think the first two were not so hot either--check out this interview with Alan Dershowitz:
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/04/11/Dersh-On-Zimm-Lawyers
"I think that's kind of standard for prosecutors. They're advocates for a side, not anything like impartial arbiters."
Sure, but why not pretend for the first 30 seconds of your speech?
Laughing at the comment above for "Choi Seung hee" who admittedly doesn't get much enthusiastic press these days. I guess you meant Va. Tech playwright/assassin Cho?
Anonymous asked:
"If double jeopardy attaches in a state court, does that also prevent the feds from trying him for the same charges?
Also, can the prosecutor appeal to the supreme court if she is defeated in state court?"
NO, the prosecutor cannot appeal if you are acquitted.
As for prosecution by the feds, bear in mind that the state and fed are two different governments with two different laws and judicial systems. Double jeopardy does not apply if the feds elect to try you under their laws after the state has failed.
"Whites should sit back and watch this black/brown fiasco."
I was wondering if Zimmerman's attorney would embrace GZ's "hispanic-ness" but it remains to be seen if Hispanics embrace him.
Right now, it's fair to say the media still portrays him as white or as a non-black, which for purposes of this national morality play is as good as white.
What is Angela Corey's ethnic background? She looks mixed race.
Actually, the Special Prosecutor was supposed to have acted as a judge of whether a crime had or had not been committed.
"It may be that she is positioning self for higher office. Cases like this are springboards!"
Springboard into the Atlantic....
"Didn't she also say (later) that she and others on the prosecution team had held a prayer session with Martin's lawyers and family?"
I believe so, yes. Very, very weird, very unprofessional.
TGGP: RKU, are the NBP anything more than a joke which get disproportionate media coverage? Because that's my impression.
Probably not. But the easiest way to check that is via a simple experiment.
Provide us your real name and have the New Black Panthers release a web video demanding that you be killed, distributing that video on all the leading black gangster websites. Then have Spike Lee send your home address to every violent black in America.
Probably nothing will happen. And if something does, then there's just one fewer moron in America. Win-win all around...
Sorry for the OT but Derb again:
Would I like to offer some kind of sniveling apology for the piece? In your dreams, pal. I haven’t sniveled since about 1952, and I’m too old to reacquire the habit.
That's the spirit! And the lesson: never apologize for what you believe. Never, ever. (And consider donating to Derb on regular basis).
"An embarrassment to Florida law"
And American womanhood. Or, at least, to the few of us still capable of embarrassment.
I just read that Corey is up for re-election in November. As the special prosecutor, she will not try the case. The article suggests she can simply sit back, no matter how things proceed, and say "Well, I brought charges...".
With a representative jury - that is one with a goodly number of latinos in it - this guy won't be found guilty. No way, Jose.
Which then brings with it the possibility/certainty of LA-style race riots, ala Rodney King, etc.
A nice parting present from Obama to the American people and the new Romney administration.
Was Trayvon being raised by a lesbian couple? I'm confused. Who are these people I'm supposed to be praying for?
Gotta say she seems very apparatchik (most state AG's are but even then). Teaching at the academy, per Wiki. Unfortunately she's apparently also getting make-up tips from Katherine Harris. Florida is a really stitched-together polity formed by forces I can't recognize (N. Californian here) but based on the past decade alone seems like a steady source of SNAFUs going forward.
So I went to find an article to go with Steve's post, and they happened to have pictures attached.
I only hope that when I'm 60, I could look as dignified as Angela Corey... The only thing she forgot is to bleach her hair. Love all the bling, the make up and the bright red jacket. To me it says, "I went through a lot of trouble to look a certain way for y'all, and i hope you repay it by liking me. But, at the very least, look at me!!!" I expect great things from her.
My prayers are with George Zimmerman and his family.
I don't suppose America's first teen president would be too happy about that, but if he had a son it wouldn't look like me, and at this point in 21st century politics that appears to be what matters.
Will the quest for truth lead to Trayvon's school disciplinary records, any CCTV footage (with time stamp) from the 7-11, linking of his prints to a spate of recent break-ins in the neighbourhood?
Cynical as I usually am, often enough especially where the South is concerned (sometimes it feels like another country down there), and also occasionally about women in positions of authority, I'm having a hard time believing what this idiotic woman just said (maybe she has justification for what she did, i.e. charging Zimmerman with 2nd degree murder -- if so it would've been nice to hear a little about that). All that utterly inappropriate crap about "sweet parents", "justice for Trayvon", praying, etc etc. She's as unprofessional as it is possible to be. Yet she's a 'special prosecutor' in Florida. Man oh man.
Mr Sailer, I think that's what you meant to say when you said, more or less, that you missed some 'reassurement'.
"And if there is such a verdict, expect black rioting and mob violence."
There will be black rioting whatever the verdict is. Find someplace to get a bet down, your payout is guaranteed.
Mike James
Remember, listeners, pray for prosecutors and Martin's family, but not for the defense or Zimmerman's family. Got it?
Cynical as I usually am, often enough especially where the South is concerned (sometimes it feels like another country down there). . .
We tried, lord knows.
Zimmerman's new attorney, Mark O'Mara looks plenty good to me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCuxTopsruE&feature=related
Listening to the fat bitch made me want to retch. BTW - the only authority figures I trusted are dead - my parents and my high school FB coaches.
Goyishe kop, couldn't Zimmerman get a Jewish lawyer?
goatweed
Well observed.
Yeah this is as political a prosecution as it gets.
"Our oath will be upheld for our victim, Trayvon Martin and for the man responsible for his death, George Zimmerman."
"We thank all of those who have sent positive energy and prayers our way. We ask you to continue to pray for our team and Tracy and Sybrina and the rest of Trayvon's family. We thank Mr. Crump and Mr. Parks for their daily assistance in communicating with our victim's family. We also ask everyone to refrain from pre-judging this case before due diligence and due process have taken its course."
"Finally we implore you to allow this case to be prosecuted in the proper arena, a court of jurisdiction in Seminole County."
Seems unbiased, Zimmerman is sure to get a fair trial now.
I'm not a fan of her statement, but to be fair (if you actually read the entire short thing) she actually does address that it was a "very complex case...but a careful review of all the evidence has led her to decide, after careful consideration, that the state must go ahead with the prosecution." She also makes a decent point saying it isn't something someone without the experience of her coworkers would understand.
Possible media bias aside, it's important to remember that Zimmerman undoubtedly killed this boy. I have to question anybody who believes the only reason for a guilty verdict is public opinion.
"Anonymous said...
I just read that Corey is up for re-election in November. As the special prosecutor, she will not try the case. The article suggests she can simply sit back, no matter how things proceed, and say "Well, I brought charges...".
Both she and the attorney general of Florida, Pam Bondi, ran as Republicans. Do they think that blacks will vote for them because of this? If so, they must be stupid. Oh, that's right - they're Republicans - they are stupid.
Or is it just a ploy to get the nice-white-lady vote? I wonder how sympathetic the cubans in Florida are to Zimmerman? Bondi and Corey might be ruining their chances with them.
Three weeks ago our prosecution team promised those sweet parents we would get answers to all of their questions, no matter where our quest for truth led us.
How come the Illinois prosecutors do not do this?
Are blacks there less valuable than Florida's?
Lawyers in Orlando say Zimmerman's new guy is very good.
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