From the Chicago Tribune:
New records released by prosecutors in the George Zimmerman murder case show federal civil rights investigators interviewed dozens of his friends, neighbors and coworkers, but found no one who said Zimmerman was a racist.
And if they had?
This whole brouhaha is basically the equivalent of a 1930s Stalinist show trial of "wreckers." The Five Year Plan not going as planned? Find some engineers to be blamed for throwing wrenches in their turbines out of spite. Blacks still shooting each other in large numbers? Find a Great White Defendant to play the symbolic role of Racist Wrecker. Of course, the whole thing rapidly turned into a fiasco with the GWD turning out to look like a cross between Barack Obama and Hugo Chavez, and the victim of profiling turning out to have a history of burglary.
FBI agents interviewed an array of people involved in Zimmerman's life, including several coworkers. None said they had ever known him to show racial bias. One who saw him the day after the shooting said Zimmerman was "beat up physically and emotionally."
Agents also interviewed Chris Serino, the Sanford police department's lead investigator in the case. He told agents he believed Zimmerman had pursued Trayvon Martin "based on his attire," and not "skin color." Zimmerman, he said, has a "little hero complex" but is not a racist. ...
Zimmerman's ex-fiancee', who filed a domestic violence injunction against him in 2005, also had kind things to say about his behavior around blacks, the FBI reported.
He socialized and played basketball with white, black and Hispanic men and "never exhibited any biases or prejudices against anyone and did not use racial epithets of any kind", an agent quoted her as saying.
The woman told the FBI Zimmerman "began to exhibit overly protective and territorial behavior" after their engagement. Once they moved in together, the relationship "deteriorated," she told agents. She also talked about incidents of violence between them, culminating when they filed domestic-violence injunctions against each other in 2005.
Zimmerman "often talked about wanting to be a police officer," the ex-fiancée said.
George Zimmerman is the pardo Paul Blart: Mall Cop.
To step back: I've got to figure that, in contrast, the next time the gay lobby decides to go all in on some killing of a gay, they'll make sure to get their ducks in a row better than the black lobby did on Trayvon. And if the story still turns out to be a fiasco, the gays will be able to use their media power to massage The Narrative. Blacks still have a ton of symbolic clout, but they don't have a lot of competent people in positions of power to suavely manage the storyline, so things tend to unravel on them like this. No wonder nice white people are slowly switching from blacks to gays as their Most Favored Oppressed Minority. We live in an era that values skillful marketing above just about anything else, and blacks, while they have moments of genius, generally don't execute as well as gays.
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"I've got to figure that, in contrast, the next time the gay lobby decides to go all in on some killing of a gay, they'll make sure to get their ducks in a row better than the black lobby did on Trayvon. And if the story still turns out to be a fiasco, the gays will be able to use their media power to massage The Narrative."
It seems like the key is to get your narrative consolidated early. Even if it falls apart later, everyone will have moved on. The Clementi thing fell apart, but not in a way, as far as I can tell, that the general public would notice.
There's actually a good chance Zimmerman will be convicted of a serious crime, Steve. If that is 'unravelling' I would hate to see one of these Wrecker trials going smoothly!
Most people who are aware of Zimmerman's obvious innocence are afraid to say anything. Most of the population are probably unaware and still believe the evil-white-racist-shoots-14-year-old-cherub original story.
Slowly switching? I think the switch is almost complete. I just read today how Chick-Fil-A is evil for being in favor of 'denying gays basic civil rights'. That such a thing could be seriously said and believed is almost too much to bear.
It doesn't matter if a person belongs to the KKK. He has the right to defend his own life if someone's attacking him.
So, it shouldn't matter if Zimmerman is or isn't a 'racist'. All that matters is what happened on that night and why. If Zimmerman shot Trayvon in self-defense, then that's all that counts.
Zimmerman's views on race has nothing to do with the case UNLESS he willfully targeted someone for death just for his race. No such evidence on the scene has been found, and so Zimmerman's views on race is moot.
If Zimmerman's views on race OUTSIDE the incident is relevant, then it means there should be open season on all 'racists'. It means if a 'racist' minding his own business is attacked by blacks, he better not defend his own life because a 'racist' has no right to life. So, if blacks jump on Steve Sailer or Jared Taylor, and if the latter uses a gun to defend his life, he should be convicted by the law for 'hate crime' for their politically incorrect views OUTSIDE the particular incident.
This fits in with the liberal Jewish narrative of the Omar Thorton case when NY Times' main obsession was DID ALL THOSE WHITE PEOPLE DESERVE TO DIE FOR THEIR 'RACIST' VIEWS?
The US Constitution protects one's CREED. Crime is about what one dies, not what one thinks or believes. The concept of 'thought crime' is Orwellian(and leftwing Jewish, as Jews not only wanna control our actions but our thoughts and feelings as well.)
This is very hypocritical considering that American Jews defending communists in the 40s and 50s on the basis of CREED, i.e. people affiliated with communist organizations or ideology out of creed should not come under suspicion, let alone face prosecution, for their creed since the Constitution guarantees the right of all Americans to privately choose whatever creed they wish. In other words, as long as communist Americans don't actively try to overthrow the government, they should not be blacklisted from any job, not even in the government and elite positions. Well, well, but it seems like Jews have no problem with going after a whole bunch of people on the Right on the basis of creed alone.
Whether one's creed is anti-black, anti-Muslim, anti-Christian, anti-Jewish, anti-communist, pro-communist, anti-Nazi, or pro-Nazi, it should have NOTHING to do with a certain case UNLESS the person's creed motivated the incident. Whatever Zimmerman's view of race may be, it appears he was only guarding his neighborhood and shot Martin in self-defense. (If anything, Zimmerman should have had the right to shoot Martin when the latter first lunged at him. But in this particular case, it's good he didn't cuz if Zimmerman hadn't been beaten, he would have less evidence to prove that he shot Martin in self-defense.)
One thing for sure, liberal Jews are 'racist' against whites.
The "black lobby" should have elected Truth as (brother) Minister of Information and he would have gotten the job done.
His 11-part expose on the Trayvon Martin affair was sheer brilliance.
Is it me, or is the St. Trayvon narrative doing a slow fade? Seems the interest level is about done.
Of course, the whole thing could come roaring back during the trial (if there is a show-trial for a guy that clearly should be let go).
In a way, I want this to be a huge deal. It will serve some purpose like the OJ trial did of waking up stupid idiot white Liberals to just how hostile the black community is to whites, and might wake up some in the Hispanic community too (though since they are already super-hostile to blacks, whatever).
I was about to say it could help drive a political wedge between blacks and Hispanics but hah! Where the Hispanics gonna go? They know the Dems want zero borders while handing out the gimmedats (Republicans want zero borders with slightly limited gimmedats, so they lose.)
I've officially given up on the immigration thing. Whites lose, game over. Welcome to NutBrown America, soon to be officially a Third World nation. I almost wish the Chinese would take over. They'd probably be mostly cool with the whites (they value productivity) and would smack down the NAMs with a mailed fist.
Don't blacks have lots of willing Zionists to spin and execute for them? To just take two examples, what do you make of the drivers behind the NAACP and the Civil Rights Movement?
Steve is playing on an entirely different level. Can you imagine a writer from Gawker or any of that other tripe reading this- their head's would spin like Regan from the Exorcist.
Well done.
Dan in DC
Interesting point about nice white people switching from blacks to gays as the preferred victim class. Two Sundays ago, when Next Food Network Star had its latest elimination, it came down to the last remaining black guy (there originally was one other black guy, who was eliminated a few weeks ago) and the lesbian. They kept the lesbian and booted the black guy.
Perhaps switching to gays is good strategy. Blacks are hopeless, gays are not. Whites have wanted to let blacks go for a while now. Switching our bleeding hearts to pump in a different direction might be just what's needed to make the Conspicuous Compassion self-censor we whites carry in our heads shut the fuh up for once and let us get on with our white lives. After all, most conspicuously out gays are white...Frank Ocean notwithstanding...and it would be a relief to CARE SO MUCH about a group that actually has something to offer us.
Mark my words...white folk getting all loving on the gays may be the cutting edge of us telling black America to go have sex with itself...and feel all warm and caring while doing it.
Most of the population are probably unaware and still believe the evil-white-racist-shoots-14-year-old-cherub original story
There's no reasoning with a lynch mob.
But what of the many, many Trayvonistas are perfectly capable of discerning the truth, yet persist? Leaving aside the obvious personal ambitions of shills like Lawrence O'Donnel, I'd say the comparison to the Soviets is apt. I have to assume they calm whatever reservations they are still capable of by telling themselves Zimmerman is being sacrificed to the Cause, and as a gun-toting Richard Jewell type (nearly framed for the Atlanta Olympics bombing because this wanna-be cop caught the attention of some liberal "criminal profiler" a--hole somewhere) just makes him less sympathetic.
Maybe all this searching for evidence of "racism" is not just an attempt to prove Zimmerman's guilt, but to assuage their own.
They're so wound up in this nonsense that they actually can think: maybe he's not technically guilty, but hey, he is a racist!
"Perhaps switching to gays is good strategy"
I noticed recently that all my Nice White Lady friends seem to 'Like' George Takei on Facebook. Now I know why!!
So to qualify as a non-racist all you have to do is play basketball with blacks? In that case I'm golden, having played in majority black games three days a week for 15 yrs. But of course, reality is different and whites are always on probation, as the ballers themselves will often tell you: "you're lucky we let you play with us." I agree with Simon, this isn't over, but still an interesting piece of journalism. Do you think the FBI agents who failed to dig up racism will suffer in their careers? I wouldn't put it past Holder.
They would have to wait way too long for a murder and when it finally did happen, the murderer would probably not be white.
I guess this is why they are so worked up about "bullying". We discussed this some at Agnostic's blog the other day and came to the conclusion that the campaign against bullying is mostly a guise for normalizing homosexuality.
I came down a little stronger on the side of subversion as opposed to protectiveness as I've known, and just know, that many girls are sexually accosted and molested at school, but we never hear about them. I've been looking and there is nothing.
Instead, we get things like a slide show of "most notorious bullying incidents" including a dyke homecoming "king" (among other gays) receiving mean letters, next to young children who committed suicide.
I do not doubt for a second that the dyke and gays were the raison d'etre for the whole campaign. Any public school student older than thirteen will see more girls victimized in a month at his school than the elites could find. In the nation. In five years. It just doesn't pass the smell test and the whole project reeks of desperation.
And then there is Dan Savage, anti-bullying expert. The guy who tried, and bragged, about trying to make his enemies literally sick.
What's going on with the El Cajon, CA Hoodies and Hijabs case?
I have it on very good authority that the SPLC's new focus is to be on Gay, Lesbian, and Transgendered rights, and much less on blacks.
I also know a young high school student who knows some of Trayvon Martin's friends, and they said it was well known around his school that he was a "hoodlum" (note the apparel irony-double pun!).
I am a regular poster, but this post requires total anonymity. If there is some way to send info to Steve anonymously, please post how.
Camlost said...
The "black lobby" should have elected Truth as (brother) Minister of Information and he would have gotten the job done.
His 11-part expose on the Trayvon Martin affair was sheer brilliance.
7/12/12 2:54 P
What 11 part series is that? Where can I read it?
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Anonymous Camlost said...
The "black lobby" should have elected Truth as (brother) Minister of Information...
His 11-part expose on the Trayvon Martin affair was sheer brilliance."
I think I'm actually agreeing with you on this one.
"So to qualify as a non-racist all you have to do is play basketball with blacks? In that case I'm golden, having played in majority black games three days a week for 15 yrs."
So are you a racist, or not?
"But what of the many, many Trayvonistas are perfectly capable of discerning the truth, yet persist?"
There were no witnesses, no cameras, discerns what is "truth?"
I am a regular poster, but this post requires total anonymity. If there is some way to send info to Steve anonymously, please post how.
His P.O. Box is listed on the right margin of his blog main page. It also looks like you can send him an email through a link posted nearby.
Romney got jumped by the NAACP but maybe he should accused of 'racism' for stalking a black organization.
Yet the smarmy know-nothing liberal Bill Maher (whose whole shtick is making fun of supposedly know-nothing-er red state rubes) continues to push the evil-racist-Zimmerman-kills-innocant-young-boy narrative, much to the self-righteous amusement of his audience of carping seals.
"Gay people are pretty harmless if you don't have sex with them."
No, but I saw the Freeh report today.
I had to pause for few seconds and think what the heck might "wreckers" refer to. Aha! The original Russian word is "vrediteli" (vre-DEE-te-lee). "Wreckers" is a literal but pretty awkward translation. Much better translation to English would be "saboteurs".
I wonder if the other innocent, 17-year-old black yoof in the news recently, with a similar name, will have any influence on the Trayvon Narrative.
People keep overlooking the fact that Zimmerman himself is Black by the standard of most Americans and, more importantly, by the standard of the national government. His ancestry is 1/8 Sub-Saharan African.
And if they had?
Yes, excellent question. That's the idea, I take it, to suggest that racists aren't entitled to protection under the law. Total BS, but then leftists always been total aholes.
His 11-part expose on the Trayvon Martin affair was sheer brilliance.
You mean the whole part deux, part cinq thing? Lol.
Old Truth seemed majorly depressed as fact after relentless fact exonerated Zimmerman.
It doesn't matter if a person belongs to the KKK. He has the right to defend his own life if someone's attacking him.
If you're foolish enough to belong to an openly white racist group,don't count on having the same civil rights as members of the Black Guerrilla Family gang:
Bombers
(...)
In response the B'nai B'rith and the Anti-Defamation League began to raise several thousand dollars to pay informants willing to betray the bombers. Meridian police chief C. L (Roy) Gunn, who himself was on the Klan hit list, asked if the ADL would object to using the money to "to purchase bodies and not testimony."[7] One of Gunn’s sergeants Lester D. Joyner formed a blackshirted commando squad called "Joyner's Guerillas" and had been waging their own private war against the Klan by firing into Klansmen’s homes at night and detonating explosives on their lawns.[8] Adolph I. Botnick regional director of the ADL in New Orleans helped in raising the money among the Jewish community and worked with the FBI and Meridian police in setting up the death trap.[9] Botnick who worked with four others in the original planning said in an interview with the Los Angeles Times, "We were dealing with animals and I would do it again."[10]
(...)
That night 12 members of "Joyner's Guerillas" wearing black polo shirts were hiding in the bushes across from the Davidson home.[14] Reporter Jack Nelson was later told by police their objective was to kill Klan bomber Thomas Tarrants, "We had in mind killing him, I don't mind telling you."[15]
Ainsworth remained in the car as Tarrants approached the ranch-style yellow brick home on 29th Avenue. He carried a box containing 28 sticks of dynamite wired to a clock set for 2 a.m. The police opened fire with a hail of gunfire reminiscent of a scene from the 1967 film, Bonnie and Clyde. Ainsworth died, shot through the neck as she leaned over to open the door for Tarrants. Tarrants was hit 19 times but survived.[16]
(...)
Nobody likes the Klan, but there you have it, another case of Police Death Squads in America. Everybody knows the story about Fred Hampton and the Ill. Black Panthers. I don't think the BPP case ever made it to a grand Jury either.
"What 11 part series is that? Where can I read it?"
I believe the post was a joke but Truth was vigorously defending Trayvon and the media's reporting of the story. Check out some of the old Trayvon threads and you'll see Truth hanging around ready to pounce on the other posters.
If the Federales found out George Zimmerman said "spook" in 1998 what would they do with that information?
The El Cajon murder case has disappeared from the local press, as far as I can tell.
Dennis Dale said...Maybe all this searching for evidence of "racism" is not just an attempt to prove Zimmerman's guilt, but to assuage their own.
Maybe, but it also accomplishes a lot of other things: makes white people more nervous about defending themselves, reluctant to join neighborhood watches, and eager to establish their non-racist bona fides in case they have to produce them at their show trial. Probably a big donation to SPLC would help a lot.
Anonymous medvedev said...Much better translation to English would be "saboteurs".
The term "wreckers" is familiar to English speakers who have read about Communism. "Hoarders and wreckers" were always identified as the reason that the five-year plan didn't produce the expected results. As a slightly odd term it works better as jargon than would "saboteur." (Your comment is interesting nonetheless, I don't mean to nit-pick.)
Zimmerman has lately been giving them some ammo to run with. Lying in court about money, conspiracy to commit fraud, etc.
If the Federales found out George Zimmerman said "spook" in 1998 what would they do with that information?
The testimony that Mark Fuhrmann had been known to use the n-word seemed to be a key factor in getting OJ off, so I wouldn't underestimate it.
The Skippy Gates flap fell apart when it turned out that Sgt. James Crowley taught an anti-racial profiling program and had once given mouth-to-mouth resuscitation to a black man. What hope is there for those of us without such sterling anti-racist credentials?
"Old Truth seemed majorly depressed as fact after relentless fact exonerated Zimmerman."
Exonerated? When did I miss the trial?
"Truth was vigorously defending Trayvon and the media's reporting of the story."
Cite ONE example of where I did either.
from the article: "FBI agents spread out across the state, talking to three dozen people, including gun-shop employees, Zimmerman's ex-fiancée and the Sanford police detective who led the investigation into the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin, an unarmed black 17-year-old."
The article is conspicuously silent on how many former friends and acquittances of Trayvon were talked to. Was he abusing cough syrup? Was he active in MMA fighting? Did he assault a bus driver a few weeks prior to the shooting incident? These are just as important as Zimmerman's past in trying to deduce the events of leading up to the fatal shooting.
But yeah, no one among the great and the good seem unwilling to be bothered by any facts that could get in the way of their preconceived (ie. prejudiced) notions.
"The testimony that Mark Fuhrmann had been known to use the n-word seemed to be a key factor in getting OJ off, so I wouldn't underestimate it."
No, Fuhrmann using the N-word was a key factor in establishing the argument that Furhman had motivation to PLANT EVIDENCE; which was a key factor in getting OJ off, let's not skip the intermediary steps.
http://www.helium.com/items/1848468-oj
"I have it on very good authority that the SPLC's new focus is to be on Gay, Lesbian, and Transgendered rights, and much less on blacks."
Will they be letting up on groups wanting lower immigration levels also?
Robert Hume
What scares me(and I'm not American) is how the media persists with the 'White' Hispanic descriptor, despite the HD photos showing a man much darker looking than the oppressed for being Hispanic Richie Valens. Creepy.
No Steve. Blacks have the 'right of victimhood' sin non qua in the USA.
As said before they are the ultimate trump card, the joker in he pack, if you will. King, Queen and Jack and wild card all rolled into one.
In the modern, limp-wristed, feminized USA screaming loudest that you are a poor put-upon historic victim is the way to win heroic(!) and nobility (in all senses of the word) status.
Blacks have been playing this game the longest and they play it the best - they have an almost preter human feel of how to play this game succesfully.
Gays are new kids on the block, and rank amateurs in comparison. The feminists play a better game than they do.
There were no witnesses, no cameras, discerns what is "truth?"
Right, the "no videotape, no crime" riposte (I'm old enough to recall the birth of this Calaban: the OJ trial, used by his apologists in reference to Rodney King).
This is not an effective argument for you. If the truth is unattainable, then the man must go free.
(Isn't it amazing how liberals resemble law-and-order conservatives once Sailer's who/whom principle is invoked?)
I remind you the Trayvonistas are the ones demanding a man's head on the basis of some lurid initial news reporting that--let's be honest--has since been contradicted. The onus is still on you.
But I would like to ask you the original question, as someone clearly smart enough to know better (and possessing enough good humor to engage in your lonely one-man insurgency here--a man after my own heart), why do you persist?
The BBC and Guardian were pushing the "hate crime" theory in a big way last year, when an openly homosexual barman (in Cumnock, Ayrshire - not a liberal haven by any means) was tied to a post and beaten before being set on fire.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3888866/Gay-hate-victim-Stuart-Walker-28-bris-torched.html
Then it was revealed that "a report had been sent to the procurator fiscal in August after Mr Walker was accused of indecency involving a 12-year-old boy."
And the case vanished from the media as though it had never been.
Oddly enough, the person charged with the murder
a) bears the surname Esquierdo - not at all a Scots surname
b) appears to have been an acquaintance of the victim
"It is also alleged he tried to defeat the ends of justice by telling police he and Mr Walker were assaulted by unknown men, blaming them for the death."
Is that the source of the original hate crime allegation, I wonder?
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2012/02/24/teenager-denies-murdering-barman-stuart-walker-and-setting-fire-to-his-body-86908-23763745/
Re the Walker killing - it seems the allegations of indecency against him may have been maliciously motivated.
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?p=54052626
"What scares me(and I'm not American) is how the media persists with the 'White' Hispanic descriptor, despite the HD photos showing a man much darker looking than the oppressed for being Hispanic Richie Valens. Creepy."
What the media says is fact for the goyim.
One advantage of gays as Most Favored Oppressed Minority is that there are so few of them; much better to award that status to a group that makes up a percent or two of the population than one that is over 10%. Though they're all over the news and the internet, I go months and years at a stretch without knowingly interacting in person with homosexuals. So all the nobility and one-ups-man-ship of supporting the Oppressed Minority with much less of the downside of actually doing anything about them or with them most of the time.
"I remind you the Trayvonistas are the ones demanding a man's head on the basis of some lurid initial news reporting that--let's be honest--has since been contradicted."
And you're demanding exoneration based on the fact that the dead guy is black and the live guy is "white", so what?
There have been a lot of facts on both sides. Both have dodgy pasts, both have factors in their favor, but there has not been any contradiction that a kid who was walking home to his house is dead, based upon the questionable decisions of a man. This is the only "fact" that has truly been established.
And I persist because someone else invited me by name. I couldn't really care less at this point.
Truth said: No, Fuhrmann using the N-word was a key factor in establishing the argument that Furhman had motivation to PLANT EVIDENCE; which was a key factor in getting OJ off, let's not skip the intermediary steps.
Nonsense. The entire point of revealing the N-word was to anger the all black jury and get their hackles up. Period. And it worked. The minute that fact came to light, everyone knew it was over.
If you seriously think the jury gave the slightest damn about "planted evidence" or anything else then you are delusional. The verdict was 100% tribal and they would have voted innocent even if there was film of OJ doing the deed.
I have it on very good authority that the SPLC's new focus is to be on Gay, Lesbian, and Transgendered rights, and much less on blacks.
That makes a lot of sense when you consider that $PLC has always been, first and foremost, a personal money-making venture for Morris Dees.
He picked the name "SPLC" because it sounded a lot like King's "SCLC." SPLC spends 9 times as much on fundraising as it does on actually providing legal services to poor blacks. SPLC has several hundred million dollars in reserves, much of it parked in places like the Cayman Islands.
Dees has made a very good living off of getting old Jews to write him big checks. I'll guess that the percentage of SPLC donations that come from blacks is miniscule. But now his target market of old Jews who lived through the Holocaust and 1960's Civil Rights protests is literally dying off. KKK and neo-Nazis just don't instill that same visceral fear/hatred in younger Jews.
So it makes sense for Dees to switch to championing the GLBT crowd. Not only are they more popular than poor Southern blacks with the SWPL crowd these days, but the homosexuals themselves are -- unlike blacks -- affluent and willing to donate.
(As an aside, some enterprising black community leader should organize a quiet shakedown of SPLC. Submit a bunch of legitimate grant proposals to SPLC that address "southern poverty legal issues." Then threaten to bad-mouth Dees' poor record of helping blacks and extreme personal wealth if he doesn't fund the group's projects. Dees could afford to pay a few $ million in hush money.)
Anonymous said...
"I have it on very good authority that the SPLC's new focus is to be on Gay, Lesbian, and Transgendered rights, and much less on blacks."
Will they be letting up on groups wanting lower immigration levels also?
Robert Hume
7/12/12 9:41 PM
No. They consider it racist to be against open borders. When the sheer numbers involved are pointed out, they go silent. There are two types of SPLC'ers- the "True Believers", and those whose eyes have ben opened, but continue to go along with the charade because admitting it's all a con would cause too much cognitive dissonance. They are very racist in their private conversations, some of them, using language you would not believe.
"The report states that joshrandall had made repeated racist statements to friends and even co-workers. He referred to differences in IQ among the races,he bemoaned what he called the cost of "taking care of the n*****s",he claimed backs were more likely to be criminals,and that most of the money spent educating them was a waste. Said one acquaintance,"You know how when african-americans move into a neighborhood and the racist government reduces services to that area because its black,so the neighborhood deteriorates?josh would always say things about how that was the blacks fault!Crazy stuff! And you know how black businessmen are NEVER given loans,so theres no black businessess,and how young black males are frightened of whites and are the targets of white profilers?? josh thought the young black MALES were the PROBLEM!!! WHAT A RACIST! And you should've heard him talk about the uhm,swedes ,and all these crazy things about how the uhm,swedes have so much power and are parasites--he hates the uhm,swedes!!" Said AG Eric Holder,(in his high pitched nasally voice)"We expect charges very soon..." YIKES!!
I suppose I'd be screwed if I ever have use a weapon to defend myself against a NAM away from my home and had to be put through an FBI investigation. I enjoyed expressing race realist sentiments/hate facts to a former Canadian girlfriend and all of her liberal friends the moment they excused NAM dysfunction/pathology.
Former co-workers knew they could bend my ear without judgement if they had a gripe after having rude NAM behavior directed at them. Everybody within my immediate sphere of friends and family is well aware of my opinions and I doubt any of them would describe me as a racist, not even the small number of Hispanics or blacks I occasionally associate with.
I'm surprised that this story hasn't gained more traction than it has:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/lesbian-teen-couple-shot-texas-park/story?id=16652447
Certainly the majority of commenters think this was a "Hate Crime" against lesbians--and perhaps it is--but there was another teenager killed not 15 miles away, under similar circumstances. Hate-filled Christian bigot or serial killer? Who knows? Oh, that's right, the gay lobby knows. It must be the former.
"It doesn't matter if a person belongs to the KKK. He has the right to defend his own life if someone's attacking him." - Not so fast fellow Anon, had Zimmerman been a racial supremacist they could much more easily make the case that Trayvon's civil rights had been violated. The powers that be can't just throw him in prison like that, yet. They still need their own justification to the larger population of Americans, who have in this instance turned pretty harshly against them.
Paint me skeptical that SPLC is taking advantage of all these old "naive" "confused" Jews. When it comes to money and/or politics I've never met an old rich Jew who was either - quite the opposite.
Ever occur to you that a wealthy Jew contributes money to SPCL, gets a tax deduction = to 35% of the contribution and then SPCL kicks it back to them, or puts in a trust overseas where they can get access to it? Oh no, that'd never happen.
Conservative Gentiles = naive and confused
Certainly the majority of commenters think this was a "Hate Crime" against lesbians--and perhaps it is--but there was another teenager killed not 15 miles away, under similar circumstances. Hate-filled Christian bigot or serial killer? Who knows? Oh, that's right, the gay lobby knows. It must be the former.
My wife knows the killer of the "other teenager". She was one of his elementary school teachers. She could foresee that he might get in some trouble, but nothing like murder.
"The verdict was 100% tribal.."
How is that possible when the jury was only 75% black?
"...and they would have voted innocent even if there was film of OJ doing the deed."
If ifs and butts were candy and nuts, every day would be Christmas.
Truth said: No, Fuhrmann using the N-word was a key factor in establishing the argument that Furhman had motivation to PLANT EVIDENCE; which was a key factor in getting OJ off, let's not skip the intermediary steps.
The intermediate steps are not really relevant. What's relevant is that to members of the anti-racist gestapo, it makes sense that if Mark Fuhrmann would use a racial slur, he would also commit a felony by planting evidence. (Expressing any negative attitudes about blacks is tantamount to a felony in their minds.) Similarly, they would assume that if Zimmerman had been known to use racial slurs, then he probably shot young Martin for no good reason. And even if he hadn't, he should go to jail for using racial slurs anyway.
"Paint me skeptical that SPLC is taking advantage of all these old "naive" "confused" Jews. When it comes to money and/or politics I've never met an old rich Jew who was either - quite the opposite.
Ever occur to you that a wealthy Jew contributes money to SPCL, gets a tax deduction = to 35% of the contribution and then SPCL kicks it back to them, or puts in a trust overseas where they can get access to it? Oh no, that'd never happen.
Conservative Gentiles = naive and confused"
Yup, that would expain all the overseas accounts that the SPLC has.
I though it unusual when I first read of them.
Thanks for puting 2+2 together for us naive unwashed.
It reminds me of another tax dodge that ocurred a few years back with many members of the Tribe involved that revolved around donating art with wildly inflated prices to various museums and institutions.
There is always an angle with some people.
"How is that possible when the jury was only 75% black?"
Because two white women are easily intimidated by nine angry blacks. Both white women voted guilty on the first vote (the only two to do so). They subsequently changed their votes. The other non-black was hispanic.
And lets not forget that one of the blacks gave Simpson the black power fist after the verdict. Not tribal my ass.
"And lets not forget that one of the blacks gave Simpson the black power fist after the verdict. Not tribal my ass."
LOL... athough Truth can be pretty cool sometimes ... other times he behaves like a lunatic.
Even though I like him and he sometimes makes good points... it just goes to show you how deep tribalism runs particularly with non Whites likes Blacks, Jews, and Hispanics and even Orientals.
Whites, are by far the most evolved of the races and the first race to declare slavery illegal no matter what the race of the slave (it is still practiced in parts of Africa to this day).
Unfortunately, Whites are going to have to retribalize a process that you can slowly already see taking place (just read the comments section on almost any MSM web site that does not censor comments).
"I just read today how Chick-Fil-A is evil for being in favor of 'denying gays basic civil rights'. That such a thing could be seriously said and believed is almost too much to bear."
-All part of the plan. That's the way its done when its done right, ratchet it up a little at a time. Keep it within the limits of tolerance so you don't get backlashes like the Tea Party rising up pissed off over an issue who votes in a new Congress.
Foisting such nonsense as the Chick-Fil-a issue on the whites of the 40s would have found major resistance. Nowadays, after many decades of raising the bar of what we'll tolerate, most just shake their heads and say nothing.
"Interesting point about nice white people switching from blacks to gays as the preferred victim class. Two Sundays ago, when Next Food Network Star had its latest elimination, it came down to the last remaining black guy (there originally was one other black guy, who was eliminated a few weeks ago) and the lesbian. They kept the lesbian and booted the black guy."
*****Couldn't have had anything to do with their cooking? Those bulldykes do make some mean BBQ ribs...
"Gay people are pretty harmless if you don't have sex with them. You ever hear of a lady being mugged by a pair of bachelors in Dockers because her scarf was just so *fabulous*?"
***** I don't know, those two Rear Admirals on Seinfeld that stole Elaine's armoire from Kramer seemed pretty scary...
"Truth said...
"But what of the many, many Trayvonistas are perfectly capable of discerning the truth, yet persist?"
There were no witnesses, no cameras, discerns what is "truth?""
*****Unless George broke his own nose, and bashed up the back of his own head while fighting with Trayvon, there would seem to be evidence supporting his claim.
"For reals ya'll -- an all white + gay America? It's paradise."
Paradise would be reverting back to the traditional ways of letting people freely associate, speak their minds, do business with whom they pleased, etc.
"In the modern, limp-wristed, feminized USA screaming loudest that you are a poor put-upon historic victim is the way to win heroic(!) and nobility (in all senses of the word) status.
Blacks have been playing this game the longest and they play it the best - they have an almost preter human feel of how to play this game succesfully."
Actually, there has been another group that played it longer and play it best; according to Nietzsche they invented it and suckered the West into believing it.
"No wonder nice white people are slowly switching from blacks to gays as their Most Favored Oppressed Minority. We live in an era that values skillful marketing above just about anything else, and blacks, while they have moments of genius, generally don't execute as well as gays."
That's because many of us, in addition to being gay, are also white.
It won't last, though. A lot of this is status-jockeying, and it won't be long before gays become old hat, like that cool indie band you listened to in High School that stopped being so cool once all the other kids started listening to them. You can see the switch to transgendered already happening in those segments of society that have been pro-gay the longest.
"And then there is Dan Savage, anti-bullying expert. The guy who tried, and bragged, about trying to make his enemies literally sick."
Dan Savage has admitted that the whole article was made up. He never went to that guy's office and licked doorknobs. Which isn't to say he isn't obnoxious overall.
"The intermediate steps are not really relevant."
To one with a high-IQ, the intermediate steps are always relevant. To the stay home and watch Dancing With The Stars crowd, you're right.
"What's relevant is that to members of the anti-racist gestapo, it makes sense that if Mark Fuhrmann would use a racial slur, he would also commit a felony by planting evidence."
No, again, Fuhrmann did not "use a racial slur" It was proven through continuous witness testimony that the racial slur, and his extreme disdain for interracial couples, was a great part of his makeup. The positioning of the bloody glove was quite curious, and the two combined indicated an onus for an angry, racist white cop to frame a rich, famous, good-looking black man with a prettier wife than he. This made the jury think that maybe if one piece of evidence is specious...
Now, In my opinion, Fuhrmann did plant the evidence; in effect, he framed a guilty man, but he did add more doubt to a "beyond a reasonable doubt" decision.
Similarly, they would assume that if Zimmerman had been known to use racial slurs, then he probably shot young Martin for no good reason.
And you assume that because Martin was black, he beat Zimmerman up for no good reason: Who is stupider?
George Zimmerman seems like pretty typical middling successful blue collar guy. A little F-ing up early in life and a lot more raw than the college type but generally pretty solid by his late 20's. It's not surprising to me that he had a lot of black and white friends for example. There is something of a convergence of culture-beyond-race (mostly) that I have noticed at Zimmerman's area of the socioeconomic scale - call it the functional zone of the baby-mama culture. I see people like this all the time in the area where I live. SWPL wouldn't care for this culture much - it's crude and too American.
"Even though I like him and he sometimes makes good points... it just goes to show you how deep tribalism runs particularly with non Whites likes Blacks, Jews, and Hispanics and even Orientals."
Well thank you my friend, but are you sure that you are not the one being "tribal" here?
You did, after all, jump to the defense of a "white" (when convenient) guy who's arrest record, and proven disdain for authority, disrupted his lifelong dream to become a cop in the first place.
"Whites, are by far the most evolved of the races and the first race to declare slavery illegal no matter what the race of the slave (it is still practiced in parts of Africa to this day)."
Now this is the indisputable truth; see it's not that hard.
"*****Unless George broke his own nose, and bashed up the back of his own head while fighting with Trayvon, there would seem to be evidence supporting his claim."
Amberlamps got the worst of his confrontation with Epic Beard Man; does that mean the white guy started it?
"Unfortunately, Whites are going to have to retribalize a process that you can slowly already see taking place (just read the comments section on almost any MSM web site that does not censor comments)."
That would be a tragedy, because I think part of the success of the west has been setting up societies based around opening up societies to allow education, basic rights, etc. for the common man, fair play, meritocracy, etc. Of course, its not perfect, and the chief complaints of the libs have been the shortcomings of the west in these areas, but the reality is, we have done vastly better than everywhere else at giving the common man a place at the table.
I think it is a major part of how the west rose and outperformed everyone else. Someone from the lower classes with intelligence and creativity can rise and make it for himself, in turn enriching the rest of society with new inventions, jobs, etc. Our captains of industry and our literal captains in the military can be the best and brightest of society instead of merely the best among the upper class.
Its a sad irony that leftist pushing in the name of demanding we become MORE this way has made us far less this way, taking us away from meritocracy in the demands that we are all equal. No longer the demand for equal opportunity but equal results.
But yes, you're right, for whites to survive and prosper in a society that is becoming less about meritocracy and more about tribalism, we too must become tribal. But do we throw out the baby with the bathwater as a result, and give up one of the pillars that made our society great in the process? This I worry about.
"Truth said...
"...and they would have voted innocent even if there was film of OJ doing the deed."
If ifs and butts were candy and nuts, every day would be Christmas."
There was audio tape of him confessing that was ruled inadmissable. Nice to know the lives of the two people he brutally ended are worth less than letting him make a foolish mistake like talking before his attorney could get involved...
"There was audio tape of him confessing that was ruled inadmissable"
There was no such thing.
Truth said: ""Similarly, they would assume that if Zimmerman had been known to use racial slurs, then he probably shot young Martin for no good reason.""
"And you assume that because Martin was black, he beat Zimmerman up for no good reason: Who is stupider?"
Assuming that a black teenager beat somebody up for no good reason is pretty reasonable. They do it all the time.
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