July 12, 2013

18 million more non-working native Americans over last 13 years

Peter Schaeffer notes:
Immigrant Gains and Native Losses In the Job Market, 2000 to 2013″ 
By Steven A. Camarota and Karen Zeigler
“While jobs are always being created and lost, and the number of workers rises and falls with the economy, a new analysis of government data shows that all of the net gain in employment over the last 13 years has gone to immigrants (legal and illegal). From the first quarter of 2000 to the first quarter of 2013, the number of natives working actually fell by 1.3 million while the overall size of the working-age (16 to 65) native population increased by 16.4 million. Over the same time period, the number of immigrants working (legal and illegal) increased by 5.3 million. In addition to the decline in the number of natives working, there has been a broad decline in the percentage holding a job that began before the 2007 recession. This decline has impacted natives of almost every age, race, gender, and education level. The total number of working-age (16 to 65) natives not working — unemployed or out of the labor force entirely — was nearly 59 million in the first quarter of this year, a figure that has changed little in the last three years and is nearly 18 million larger than in 2000.

Fortunately, Schumer and Rubio have a plan to change this.

25 comments:

Anonymous said...

http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2013/07/12/and-the-biggest-winner-in-the-arab-spring-is-israel/

Kerry the whore.

San Franciscan non-monk said...

OT: Montana, ND and SD, some of the only states that pay college administrators (who at least may be former intellectuals) more than sports coaches.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/05/12/american-decline/

The intellectualism of Montana being a very Sailery topic.

David said...

"all of the net gain in employment over the last 13 years has gone to immigrants (legal and illegal)"

There hasn't been a net gain in employment. That's problem # 1.

Problem #2 is that the elites, who craft corporate/governmental policy, don't want us here ("us" = natives).

The best way to "elect a new people" is to employ a new people.

You can pretty much conclude that we've been handed our divorce papers. How much longer can we sustain the illusion that we're "part of the family," as corporations like to put it?

America has no more legitimacy and can't command our respect or concern.

blogger said...

Moral correctness is the new class snobbery as only affluent whites can afford to be 'progressive'.

It's like you gotta be rich to afford a ticket to a Bruce Springsteen concert about 'working class struggle'.

Anonymous said...

My wife was a worker in 2000, but since I make so much more money now, and since we have 5 children, she is no longer employed since that year.

I see this as a good thing.

Anonymous said...

The study found: "The decline has
been especially pronounced for workers under age 30."

Immigrants have been replacing young people in America in many work environments. Young people by definition don't have much job experience so they need to offer superior intellectual horsepower or customer service skills, otherwise hire an immigrant with likely more work experience and at less cost.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

> "18 million more non-working native Americans over last 13 years"

How do these non-working numbers stack up by race?

Thanks.

Anonymous said...

http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2013/jul/10/censoring-news-before-happens-china/

yeah, it only happens in China.

Anonymous said...

http://www.inquisitr.com/836131/chickens-abandoned-animal-shelters/#CYewKWj7kx29qgrT.99

Chickens coming home to roost.

Section 8 for chickens that didn't prove to be magic chicks.

Anonymous said...

San Franciscan non-monk -

What do college administrators have to do with intellectualism?

Anonymous said...

No, this can't be real. ROTFL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VqjlhtKIToo

http://dangerousminds.net/comments/tv_station_falls_for_racist_prank_misreports_asiana_pilot_names

Anonymous said...

Waging economic warfare on this scale against their fellow citizens should count as treason.

Anonymous said...

"The decline has
been especially pronounced for workers under age 30."

Same in Europe. Youth unemployment has gone through the roof because all the entry-level jobs are being done by illegal immigrants.

Anonymous said...

As Lawrence Auster wrote shortly before his death, "It's their country now."

Let it all burn to the ground around them.

Hugh's Driveway said...

Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho had a great plan for this, just hire everyone to print money then everyone will be a billionaire. Obama's plan was a good start on this but he didn't have the balls to follow it to its logical conclusion.

Anonymous said...

The problem for elites is that they can't keep the aggressive white males out of the military and their hands off the guns. They try to crowd them out with the openly gay thing, but that just turns off the straight women because it increases the lesbians not the gay guys in the military. I guess they can start to promote gay guys (like liberal churches promote gay bishops) and that would make the straight ones pretty danged uncomfortable, but accidents happen, you know. When the white men are not in the army, navy and marines with their fingers on the triggers, then we are sunk. Really white police men and white males in the military are the main thing that the elites fear, so they keep sending them to the front lines to stand in front of the guns of every skirmish on earth.

anony-mouse said...

If the people who are coming in have low IQ's overall, and the people already here have higher IQ's overall, how can there be such a huge variance in employment gains-in favor of the lower IQ group?

24AheadDotCom said...

It's well within everyone's power to do something about these issues.

For instance, the WH recently released a study hiliting the supposed economic benefits of reform. The video (link) has 273 comments, of which no less than 8 are from me. Most of the comments are negative, but that's not enough. Many are stupid or trolls. If there had been a concerted effort to leave good comments on the video - and to vote those comments up - that would send a strong message. The message could be augmented by rubbing the face of @pfeiffer44 and other admin hacks in it.

In addition to leaving comments on the video, I also tweeted several people who were hyping the video.

If 100 people would spend just a little bit of time per week doing things like that, it would send a strong message.

P.S. The WH report includes this: "Comprehensive immigration reform will contribute to our housing market recovery".

Anonymous said...

One of the thing people ought to remember:

American whites are a declining population.

Not just the working-age population, which started declining years ago.

Now it's also a declining population for everyone, young and old.

As this population has fallen year by year, it had to be taken up by non-whites like blacks or hispanics.

In short: this has not happened.

Anonymous said...

"If the people who are coming in have low IQ's overall, and the people already here have higher IQ's overall, how can there be such a huge variance in employment gains-in favor of the lower IQ group?"

They only need the minimum IQ for the jobs in question and most of the jobs are either low-skilled or entry level jobs hence the big jump in youth unemployment.

Bob Arctor said...

"My wife was a worker in 2000, but since I make so much more money now, and since we have 5 children, she is no longer employed since that year.

I see this as a good thing."

That sure is a heartwarming little anecdote, but it has absolutely nothing to do whatsoever with the story in the post. The long term net effect on employment of mothers leaving the workforce when they have kids is zero; for every mother that leaves the job market when her first kid is born one younger women starts working, that younger woman in turn quits working 2-5 years later and the cycle continues. The statistical net effect of this on the number of people employed is, again, zero.

Anonymous said...

"If the people who are coming in have low IQ's overall, and the people already here have higher IQ's overall, how can there be such a huge variance in employment gains-in favor of the lower IQ group?"

Because the wages for these jobs have also failed to rise (due to the surplus of labor), making them less and less worthwhile compared to sitting home playing xbox and smoking weed.

My impression is that these companies will still hire native youths, but they'll pay them 1970s wages that the youths aren't much interested in working for.

Anonymous said...

If the people who are coming in have low IQ's overall, and the people already here have higher IQ's overall, how can there be such a huge variance in employment gains-in favor of the lower IQ group?

Have you ever noticed how nothing seems to work anymore?

Have you ever had the prize flowers and specimen plants in your front yard mowed down by a mob of nitwit landscaping Orcs?

Have you ever tried to live in one of these ticky-tacky development houses which was cobbled together by a crew of illegals?

Have you ever tried to get help from an employee in a Big Box store - if you can even find one at all [let alone one who can speak so much as broken Engrish]?

Have you ever tried to use a piece of software which was thrown together by these nitwit H1B's?

Have you ever been so catastrophically foolish as to allow a loved one to be cared for by a nurse or a doctor who was foreign-born?

A disturbingly large percentage of the widgets and systems and doodads which I am asked to interact with these days simply DO NOT FUNCTION AT ALL.

jody said...

quick math.

US population: 316,238,000
US population growth: 1%
so number of new americans per year = 3,162,380 annualized

US labor force participation rate: 63.3%
so number of new jobs required per year = 2,001,786. this is just to stay in place. for no change at all in the employment rate, provided no change in the participation rate.

so number of new jobs required per month, just to stay in place, just to keep up with the red queen, no decrease in unemployment at all occurs when this many new jobs are created in 1 month = 166,815

so not only does the economy have to create that many new jobs per month, every month, forever, just to stay in place, but there is a new problem. part time jobs are being counted as full time jobs.

there's another problem - if you look at the details of the reports, manufacturing jobs are being LOST, not gained. the US economy sheds a few thousand manufacturing jobs every month. it "makes up" for that by adding ten thousand mcjobs.

http://www.adpemploymentreport.com/

now compare the required 166,000 per month to the observed numbers. not an encouraging picture over time. and remember, that's just the number required to stand still. not to grow.

how can the economy be growing? answer - it's not. deficit spending and QE accounts for almost all of the "growth". were there not an energy boom, even official numbers might show growth at 0%, instead of the pathetic 1% they show.

LOL. the US is adding 3 million people per year yet it's not growing economically at all. just dead weight third worlders for the most part. meanwhile it racks up debt to the tune of 17 trillion.