From The Jewish Press:
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| Gravestone of one of three acquaintances of Tamerlan Tsarnaev who had their throats slashed in the Brandeis U.-area on 10th Anniversary of 9/11 |
Tsarnaev-Connected Waltham Murders Occurred on 9/11
The fact that three men were brutally murdered on September 11, in murders which remain unsolved but in which the victims have now been connected to Tamerlan Tsarnaev, cannot be ignored.
By: Lori Lowenthal Marcus
Published: April 24th, 2013
One aspect of the unsolved brutal throat-slashing murders of three men in a Waltham apartment in 2011, all three of whom knew Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the dead suspect in the Boston Marathon Bombings, has been overlooked.
It may be pure coincidence, but it turns out that Erik Weissman, 31 of Waltham, Raphael Terek, 37, of Waltham and Brendan Mess, 25, of Waltham were murdered on September 11, 2011. Terek and Weissman were Jewish.
That Tamerlan Tsarnaev knew the three men who were murdered became known recently, and the fact that Tamerlan was very close with at least one of them but never showed up for the funeral or memorial services, was considered odd at the time, but memory faded.
The exact date of the murders – September 11 – and its significance, had not yet been recognized.
There hasn't seemed to be too much progress on this case since it resurfaced this week, so no proof yet. But think about the negative case: if Tamerlan didn't do it, who did? And are they still on the loose?
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If he did do it, it certainly fits with his countrymen's MO. I wonder if he gave them a chance to live like Yevgeny Rodionov?
The case for Tamerlan makes a lot of sense. If he thinks 911 was an inside job, the case for Jewish involvement is high due to the ethnic composition of PNAC, the resultant wars that would have been the objective of the exercise, and Silverstein's presumed involvement and statement "pulled the buildings", not to mention the dancing Israelis. Iraq and Afghanistan are Muslim countries. This would be a reprisal killing.*
Thus the two Jewish victims and the symbolic date chosen fits with Tamerlan as the killer. Maybe the third was just a witness. If he had pre-planned the murder on the specific date of 9/11, he would not be able to wait until there were zero witnesses. What's another infidel anyway? It's not like he placed a high value on American life.
The showering of cash all over the victims also makes sense as symbolism. "You want your money? Well here it is!". Not sure what the marijuana is about though.
*When an American or European thinks of 9/11 as a false flag and Jewish involvement, unless they knew one of the several thousand 9/11 victims personally, they think "Oh, those wacky Jews, what will they think of next! Even if I wanted to do something about it, it's not like I would be effective. Maybe we'll at least get some cheap oil out of the operation, gas prices are starting to eat into my discretionary spending." A Muslim would see it instead as a way to initiate a war against Islamic countries on the basis of just retaliation - i.e. hundreds of thousands of their fellow Muslims are being killed because of this. Their religion already pits them against the world on a warlike basis.
Something tells me this one will probably stay in the Jewish press. I mean, why would a Muslim slit the throats of 3 Jews on the 10th anniversary of 9/11? What's the connection?
I liked this quote from a police chief in Waltham:
"He lamented the fact that the violent murders happened in Waltham, and noted how none of the victims seemed to have significant ties to the city. He said it was unfortunate that they chose the apartment on Harding Avenue.
“It’s almost like they chose the quietest, safest little cul-de-sac in all of Waltham so that they could fly under the radar,” he said. “Maybe it worked for a while but somebody didn’t do something right. They upset somebody in high places and they paid for it dearly with their lives.”
That seems like a strange choice, actually. Wouldn't a drug dealer STICK OUT in a quiet cul-de-sac? If you had an apt in Cambridge, then nobody would notice, because nobody cares.
Read more: One year later, few answers in murder of Cambridge trio - Cambridge, Massachusetts - Cambridge Chronicle & Tab http://www.wickedlocal.com/cambridge/news/x1402245015/One-year-later-few-answers-in-murder-of-Cambridge-trio#ixzz2RQf6jIpK
The case for Tamerlan makes a lot of sense. If he thinks 911 was an inside job, the case for Jewish involvement is high due to the ethnic composition of PNAC
LOL. Whereas if it was an outside job, nobody (especially not Muslims) sees Zionist fingerprints?
"I mean, why would a Muslim slit the throats of 3 Jews on the 10th anniversary of 9/11? What's the connection?"
Jews love our freedoms as much as jihadis hate them, making them obvious targets.
I wonder if he gave them a chance to live like Yevgeny Rodionov?
Your typical counterjihadi has so many Christian martyrs at the tip of his tongue, it's hard to believe it's a jewish-run movement! Tikkun olam in action, no doubt.
Is there any evidence at all for him doing it other than an opportunity to put a scapegoat out there for people to get the whole thing finally off their chest, without the trouble of a defendant who can actually defend themselves?
To the second commenter, the third victim you're referring to was not "just a witness". Brandon Mess was a close friend of Tamerlan, his best friend and sparring partner according to Wikipedia, and it was Brandon's apartment. And to Svigor, these weren't three random Jews -- maybe 2 random Jews. Somehow I don't think Tamerlan became best friends with Brandon because of the symbolic importance of his Jewishness. Stupid theories, people...
From Buzzfeed:
>They originally suspected Mess' girlfriend, an immigrant from Somalia, they thought, whom Ray described as a "transient" who "latched onto Brendan."
And from some reporting at the time of the murders:
>according to Mess, his girlfriend threw knives and beer bottles at him after he refused to talk with guests that she had brought to the apartment.
So we're not just dealing with Chechens here, and there is little evidence that Mess was Jewish.
Correction: Brendan* Mess
And even though he was on the FBI watchlist it didn't matter, cuz they'd spelled his name wrong or some other understandable error? That damned sequester again
Why worry? The bombing brothers weren't Cossacks.
"LOL. Whereas if it was an outside job, nobody (especially not Muslims) sees Zionist fingerprints?"
I meant inside job as in, done by US/Israel as opposed to the "outside job" official story of Muslims hijacking the planes which somehow caused the disintegration of all the steel columns in each building, including WTC 7 which was not hit by a plane. The point being, I doubt Muslims have much sympathy for ordinary US citizens being controlled by Zionists, or really care to differentiate between the actions of Zionist or US insiders.
Of course there are Zionist fingerprints over it if you choose to get your news from something other than the MSM. But if you are looking at those do you still consider it an outside job? I would say most people would either buy into the official story, and let cognitive dissonance take care of the part of the story that does not fit; or say that the official story is bollocks.
"To the second commenter, the third victim you're referring to was not "just a witness". Brandon Mess was a close friend of Tamerlan, his best friend and sparring partner according to Wikipedia, and it was Brandon's apartment. And to Svigor, these weren't three random Jews -- maybe 2 random Jews. Somehow I don't think Tamerlan became best friends with Brandon because of the symbolic importance of his Jewishness."
So what was the motive? Why waste cash throwing it over the victim? And why 9/11? And why would Tamerlan not go to his "best friend"'s funeral? A supposed
best friend" with two Jewish friends could easily become grist for murder, after a religious awakening. It's not like Brendan was family or even Muslim. That sort of "best friend" to a Chechen Muslim is not on the same level as a de-racinated American best friend.
Boy, that's some good police work, Waltham. Maybe you could get some hints from the SFPD. They're clearance rate is almost 20%.
Brendan wasn't Jewish; read it on Reddit. (Yes, I know Reddit has a lot of BS but this person claimed to know Mess.)
The fact that two of the three were Jewish is probably a coincidence. They were mostly pot-smoking buds.
Pretty much all of my conspiracy theories have been disproven, but I cannot believe that (a) Tamerlan wasn't a low-level dealer and (b) that the Boston force didn't know about his activities.
How vicious.
What else was Tammy dealing? A good chunk of pot dealers sell to support their habit. It's not much money for the risk. Rumor has it a lot of the ecstasy in the US comes from or through Israel.
Raphael Teken was buried in Israel: not proof of international dealings, but evidence of a foreign connection.
Living on an out of the way cul-de-sac is a bad plan for 'retail' drug dealers. It's not a bad plan for someone who's selling larger amounts to fewer customers. One would imagine that someone with good with cars (like the bombahs probably were through their father) would be helpful for hiding drugs inside doors, gas tanks, etc.
Poriador: well, not many people have it in them to cut three people's throats. Not many people are cut out for murdering a close friend. Knowing Tammy's a killer does make it more likely.
As for the reddit guy on Mess not Jewish, I'll wait for a less anonymous source. One could think that 2/3 murdered is ANTI-SEMITE, but 3/3 murdered and one might wonder what the three were up to.
The 'foreign intelligence agency' that contacted the FBI, has the feds said Russian? One might wonder if it was Israeli. Certainly Debka had a story really fast. But drug-dealing points against any outside financial support.
Any sort of conspiracy angle: international drugs, foreign spies is almost certainly not true, just internet fun.
The fun angle is going to be watching the media go from 'Killed a few Americans? Big woop, moar immigrants!' to 'ZOMG this monster killed our own! Those WASPs are monsters for shoving these aliens down our throats!
It should be noted that the Jewish Community does not appear to have made a big hue and cry about the murders of two of their own.
Anon.
"Living on an out of the way cul-de-sac is a bad plan for 'retail' drug dealers. It's not a bad plan for someone who's selling larger amounts to fewer customers."
Quite, and the money and marijuana scattered around makes it sound drug-related to me - maybe they were a group of post-grads farming higher quality weed and selling it to all the students in the area without permission?
Were either of the two Jewish kids chemists or similar?
So was Tamerlan a friend of Mess or someone who worked for/with him?
Last but not least how are you going to cut the throats of three men on your own?
A Jew from Boston whose first name was Brendan? Now I've heard everything.
Not a Jew:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/23/tamerlan-tsarnaev-s-best-friend-brendan-mess-an-unsolved-killing.html
As to why the "Jewish community" made nothing of this, it was a local murder story of no national significance until 4/15/13. I never heard of it. I still don't think it has any Jewish significance. Unlike Steve's commenters, most Jews don't see Jewish significance in everything, even this. Teken and the other guy were killed cos they were pot dealers and infidels, not cos they were Jews.
Here is the discussion on Reddit about the murders:
http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1csthn/murder_of_brendan_mess_the_best_friend_of_boston/
Brendan is described as being a "straight shooter."
Several embedded links to Wicked Local, which are informative.
Brendan appears to be a friendly working class Cambridge local who got caught up in stuff he couldn't possibly understand. RIP, kid.
Heck, that alone disqualifies him as a Jew for the commenters here.
The victims were "stabbed in the neck" which sounds altogether more grisly than "throat slit."
Whodunit? Dunno - but it had to be someone capable of coldblooded sadistic violence. Hmmm....
Rumor has it a lot of the ecstasy in the US comes from or through Israel.
That was pretty much an open secret, years ago. Now rumor has it that the x trade has pretty much dried up altogether.
Heck, that alone disqualifies him as a Jew for the commenters here.
Hey, I know, why don't you just start using our handles and posting for us? The whole "my thoughts are my own" thing is getting old, anyway.
From further accounts, the mystery of where Tamerlane got his money is solved. Like many (a thug with wife and hell-spawn), he was on welfare. While his wife worked. And he beat her. While also dealing drugs.
Gee, a way to step up (and murder someone trusting enough to let him in -- there was no forced entry). I wonder what his motivations were?
Oh yeah, money and sex. Once he told his wife, she probably went wild for him. See Amanda Palmer, love poem, bad boy bomber who blew a little girl's legs off and killed her little brother. Women love violence, they can't get enough of men who deal it out.
And of course the money. Kill friends, steal the dope, sell it. All on 9/11, a three-fer. If a couple of victims were Jews, even better for Muslims.
Muslims HATE HATE HATE Jews, with a passion. Because they're Jewish. No other reason, Muslims go out of their way to kill Jews (such as the Jewish couple running the charity in Bombay that were tortured and murdered during the massacre there), even over Christians and Hindus. Who assuredly, most Muslims hate hate hate as well. Its an identity thing, the way women HATE HATE HATE Beta Males (and rest assured, gents, they do).
Tamerlan was a thug. Like most thugs, his thoughts turned to murder, sex, and money, not necessarily in that order, and like most thugs got the hottest of women in their prime. [I have to agree with Heartiste, WN are the biggest White Knighting losers you can imagine.] I'll bet at least part of the motivation was the wild sex he'd get for boasting of the killings, that same dynamic drives most of the ghetto violence.
Your constant deflection is appalling. The reason you hate WN's is because their agenda cuts way too close to home for you: keeping both of two subversive Semitic groups at eternal war with each other as far from our shores as possible.
@Whiskey
I do not think Muslims hate Jews. If that was true Sefardin would not survive after being kicked out from Spain in the 15th century. Jew lived among Muslims for centuries, as well as Christians,. The whole haterid today Is all because of the Israeli Palestinian conflict. I always said that. The best solution is to pay the Pals for their homes enough they could buy a nice house in Jordan or Syria, and cover their travel expenses maybe throw in an extra for a good car and that. Would have been the End of the story. The religious fanatics in Israel are just too crazy and stubborn. G-d's promise of the land is in conflict with International Law and the Common sense. You cantor just take other people's property. Romans kicked the Jews out of Israel, Christeians kicked Jews out of France, England, Spain, etc. The Europeans are responsible for the Holocost, and we take it on these Arabs who have no where to go. The real Jewish way to solve the conflict: sit down and give the Pals the best offer they can not refuse.
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