October 20, 2013

The kind of thing I find interesting and few others do

Yesterday, I found interesting the news out of Israel that Larry Summers had turned down Bibi Netanyahu's offer to head Israel's central bank. In my defense, Summers is a personality who has popped up repeatedly in the Serious News for the last 20 years (most recently, the President wanted to appoint his awesome bro Larry head of the U.S. Federal Reserve), while Netanyahu has been immensely famous in America since, perhaps, the Gulf War of 1991.

This report struck me as intriguing on all sorts of grounds.

The first question, of course, would be: Is it true? There seems to be few sources for the story. On the other hand, nobody seems to be denying it. Nor does it anybody seem to find it all that improbable either, which is useful evidence in and of itself.

If so, isn't it kind of, uh, inappropriate for U.S. citizens to assume massively important jobs in foreign governments?

I'm of two minds about this. I wouldn't have much of a problem with, say, black American economist Glenn Loury agreeing to run Haiti's central bank for awhile as an act of charity. On the other hand, if Mrs. Merkel put new Nobel laureate Robert Shiller in charge of the German central bank, I'd be leery. Whether Israel is closer in importance on the world stage to Haiti or Germany is of course a question for you to decide for yourself.

Another question would be: would taking a major post in a foreign government disqualify you for serving your own government in the future. For example, Israel's retiring central banker, economist Stanley Fischer, is a naturalized American citizen. I would presume that means he has given up hopes of an American government position, but I've never seen this issue discussed. I recall that when IMF head Dominique Strauss-Kahn was taken down in NYC in 2011, more than a few American economists started calling for the U.S. government to put its weight behind Fischer to get the IMF job. This struck me at the time as nuts: the IMF job traditionally goes to Europeans, and whatever Fischer is, he's not a European. 

Other questions: What was Netanyahu's thinking? I, personally, would very much like to understand Netanyahu's view of How the World Works.

And what does that says about the globe's transnational elites? And, why did Larry turn it down? Because he's an American or because the job's just not big enough for him? And how do Summers and Netanyahu get along?

Lots of interesting questions ... but, so far, virtually zero interest in the story in the U.S. It's just one of those things that you learn to find boring: 
"The faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. In short....protective stupidity."

44 comments:

SFG said...

Patriotism's a little too much to expect from a member of the elite.

The guy's got to be rich by now--maybe he just didn't want the job? Maybe he figured running the Israeli central bank would make him look 'too Jewish' and he wouldn't get other jobs he wanted later on?

The thing about this stuff is, only Larry really knows, and he and his buddies are such old hands at publicity you'll never get the real truth out of them.

Much as I believe in undernews and conspiracies, this one's kind of irrelevant--it's something that didn't happen, after all.

IHTG said...

Netanyahu's thinking was "oh god oh god oh god I've got to find SOMEBODY respectable to give this job or else I'll have to give it to this shrewish looking leftist harpy who'll make my life harder."

(The harpy got the job.)

Netanyahu likely mistrusts Israeli academic elites, since most of them are loyal to his political opponents. Foreign Jews aren't as entangled in local politics.

Anonymous said...

Or maybe he was being ethical and genuinely worried about potential conflicts of interest?

Anonymous said...

"Or maybe he was being ethical and genuinely worried about potential conflicts of interest?"

Funniest thing I've read all day. I would guess that having lost the fight for Fed chairmanship he now wants to make a lot of money in some corporate sinecure. He has the necessary connections for that. Having lost power, he now wants money. By the kind of standards he's used to the Israeli job offered neither money nor power.

Anonymous said...

If you do something for foreign governments, you cannot get an Amateur Radio license in the U.S. I am not sure what actions disqualify you though.

Maybe that is why Larry turned it down. Maybe he is studying for his Ham license.

Certain jobs in intelligence are off limits to people who marry non-citizens too.

Thursday said...

The Head of the Bank of England is a Canadian, Mark Carney. Before that he was head of the Bank of Canada. People in Canada were pretty happy for him.

nsam said...

The head of the Reserve Bank of India is an American citizen, Raghuram Rajan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raghuram_Rajan

Anonymous said...

The Head of the Bank of England is a Canadian, Mark Carney. Before that he was head of the Bank of Canada. People in Canada were pretty happy for him.

There is a formal connection between the governments of Canada and the UK though, which makes this somewhat less unusual than something similar occurring between 2 formally unconnected states. Canada is part of the Commonwealth of Nations and the official Head of State and monarch of Canada is the Queen of the UK.

Anonymous said...

Fischer was one of the names being proposed by some pundits to head the Fed.

TGGP said...

Maybe Summers likes to be surrounded by friends of his (he tends to inspire a lot of loyalty in them), he doesn't have many in Israel, and once he made connections there it wouldn't be of much benefit afterward.

Anonymous said...

Here is why Summers passed on the Israeli job:

"The Department has a uniform administrative standard of evidence based on the premise that U.S. citizens intend to retain U.S. citizenship when they obtain naturalization in a foreign state, subscribe to routine declarations of allegiance to a foreign state, serve in the military forces of a foreign state not engaged in hostilities against the United States, or accept non-policy level employment with a foreign government. This administrative premise is not applicable when an individual fills a policy-level position with a foreign government. In such cases, the Department of State will carefully ascertain the individual's intent toward U.S. citizenship."

Policy-level positions is foreign governments make your US citizenship subject to State Department review.

sunbeam said...

I guess there is a lot about the world I don't know.

But as far as heading a central bank, how smart do you need to be exactly?

What are they expected to do anyhow? I know that historically people make comments about "pulling away the punchbowl," but in practice they seem like they play games with interest rates to make the people who appointed, or will reappoint them, happy. Or the guy who will employ you when your term is done.

So I'm scratching my head. What exactly do you actually need to be able to do to be a Central Bank head? Know how to write a program to do quant style stuff?

Seems like you might be better off with a mob accountant "These Chinese, they are playing with our currency swaps. There will be repercussions." Or "Goldman Sachs is playing games with Gold. Again. They will be punished."

Of course that is a pipe dream.

But on another note what exactly is Larry Summers good at? I know he had a kerfluffle over chicks and brains when he was at Harvard. But what are his accomplishments? Why is he taken seriously? Wasn't he one of the guys that helped to hatchet job Russia with his stupid advice?

He has always seemed to me to be one of the interchangeable army of pundits you see on "Press the Meat," and "This Week with George Stephanopolous' Hair."

Nothing is going to improve in this country until guys like this, Geithner, Rubin are just plain never considered for any government job that could potentially impact the well being of a person in Kansas.

I'm not holding my breath.

Matthew said...

Netanyahu's point is that what matters is Summers' ethnicity, not his citizenship. Shocking, I know.

A look at Summers' bio suggests that other than their Jewishness, neither he nor his parents had any direct ties to Israel. But Israel's certainly benefited from the way Summers helped to loot the USSR. Maybe this was how Netanyahu wanted to repay him.

As for whether it's appropriate for Americans to assume high posts in foreign governments, that is their concern, not ours; but small, poor, frighteningly ignorant countries like Haiti don't have much of a choice. They need outside talent to run their countries (though even that may not help that much).

Matthew said...

BTW, Utah has a Mexican immigrant state senator, Luz Robles (D), who is or was openly working for the Mexican government in some sort of capacity. I'm pretty certain she has retained her Mexican citizenship. She served in Gov. Huntsman's (allegedly Republican) administration, is in her second term as a state senator, and has announced plans to run for U.S. Congress next year against Rep. Chris Stewart.

If a country has no self-respect, what can you do?

Svigor said...

Or maybe [Larry Summers] was being ethical and genuinely worried about potential conflicts of interest?"

Hahahahahaha! Hahahahaaaa! Er...

...bwahahahahahaaa!

Priceless! That's comedy gold right there.

Matthew said...

Also re: Utah Sen. Robles, via Wikipedia:

"During the 2011 Legislative Session, Robles pioneered groundbreaking immigration reform legislation, SB60, that would issue illegal immigrants already living in Utah an 'accountability card' that would give them the right to work without changing their legal status. Immigrants would have to pass a criminal background check and learn English to obtain the permit. Immigration experts have hailed Robles' immigration bill – and Robles herself – as 'ground breaking' and 'creative.' While her SB60 did not pass, it was a model for a guest worker program that ultimately did pass the 2011 Legislature."

So you have a Mexican dual citizen, recently employed by the Mexican government, fighting as a US official to change the immigration laws to the benefit of her former country, and American politicians having no apparent problem with that.

There is really no way to describe how batshit crazy many Mormon Republican politicians are on the issue of immigration.

Allophone said...

Interesting list here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_former_United_States_citizens_who_relinquished_their_nationality

Stanley Fischer is mentioned there as having gotten a special dispensation from the Israeli government so he didn't have to give up U.S. citizenship. It's kinda funny: if you only read Reuters & the Wall Street Journal, you'd assume that everyone giving up U.S. citizenship is a rich unpatriotic corporate executive who wants to evade taxes with offshore accounts. But in fact they're vastly outnumbered by Israeli, Jamaican, Taiwanese, and Hong Kong politicians who gave up U.S. citizenship so they could serve their governments. My guess is, the mainstream media has three reasons for this spin:

1. Focusing on rich unpatriotic corporate executives who renounce citizenship draws attention away from the ones who didn't renounce citizenship but are working against the interests of the American public in much more subtle ways. E.g. all the anti-Facebook hate gets dumped on Eduardo Saverin, so Zuck never has to answer for his massive H-1B advocacy.

2. Focusing on rich unpatriotic corporate executives with offshore accounts draws attention away from the fact that the recent crackdown on "offshore accounts" promoted by Carl Levin and Bernie Sanders (CRIMETHINK WARNING: what religion are those two men?) is mainly hitting American retirees who ended up too poor to retire in the U.S. thanks to the crash and who now live in Mexico and have Mexican bank accounts that are also "offshore" under crazy IRS rules

3. Not focusing on foreign politicians who used to be U.S. citizens draws attention away from the fact that many naturalized immigrants and their kids are much more loyal to their other country than to the U.S.

Anonymous said...

Peter Schiller is ethnically Lithuanian, not German.

albert magnus said...

"Fischer was one of the names being proposed by some pundits to head the Fed."

Here is an article in the Washington Post supporting him:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/08/26/the-most-qualified-candidate-for-fed-chair-isnt-summers-or-yellen-its-this-guy/

PeterDownUnder said...

An interesting case that is similar is the tribulations that Jeong H. Kim the president of Bell Labs had whilst he was in the process of being apointed the head of South Korea's Ministry of Future Technology.

Pretty much he was deemed a "black haired foreigner" and ostracised within South Korea. He ended up returning to the US with his family, once the media started demonising his family, uncovering that his wife owned a prime piece of real estate that hosted upon its premises a "hostess bar".

Thomas O. Meehan said...

I think that the concept of Israel and the US being different countries is not so subtly being dissolved.

I gather he had a hand in the looting of the old Soviet Union in an advisory way. Perhaps this a literal pay back from those benefiting? This applies even more to the post following about the Jewish Nobel prize.

Allophone said...

@Anon, 10/20/13, 6:01 PM: Policy-level positions is foreign governments make your US citizenship subject to State Department review.

In theory, yes. In reality, the citizenship review is discretionary, which is why it didn't affect Stanley Fischer. The only time the State Department actually enforces this rule is when a dual citizen tries to become an ambassador to Washington, like Michael Oren, cuz otherwise he'd be able to live in the U.S. tax-free.

The U.S. government doesn't care if Americans become foreign cabinet members or legislators. Even back in the 1980s, when the U.S. government was much more anti-dual-citizenship than it is today, they let Meir Kahane keep his U.S. citizenship (thanks to the ACLU). And down in Jamaica there's a story that trumps them all: a lady who naturalized as a U.S. citizen WHILE she was in the Jamaican Parliament. She even got re-elected after that. She did give up US citizenship, but that was only because of Jamaican public pressure -- the U.S. government didn't care, and the U.S. public never even heard of this story.

Anonymous said...

did you harumph and piss and moan about Valdas Adamkus ??

if not, then we Hebrews will categorize you as obsessive-compulsive in one direction only.


Stanley Fischer didn't get any "special dispensation" because he never needed it. He was not a MEmber of Knesset. We recently had a newly-elected MK who gave up his American citizenship (his parents brought him here as a small child)



>> If you do something for foreign governments, you cannot get an Amateur Radio license in the U.S

beep, thanks for playing, that's incorrect. Try to learn how to read the Code of Federal Regulations..... for comprehension

Anonymous said...

>> helped to hatchet job Russia with his stupid advice

if you rob a train for $7 million by dint of an extremely clever plan and excellent execution.... the unwashed masses at isteve will love you.

if you rob Russia of ten thousand times that amount by the same methods... they will hate you.

But let's never examine the actions of the Vatican Bank!!

Anonymous said...

In general there ought to be a preference for Americans not to serve in foreign governments, or to hold dual citizenship for that matter. Likewise, we should have obvious reservations about foreigners active in US public life.

Having said that, not all countries and people are equally foreign. The example of the Mexican Utah state legislator is abhorrent because there is such an obvious conflict of interest between the US and Mexico with respect to immigration.

On the other hand, suppose, as Hugh Hewitt recently urged, that Canadian subject Mark Steyn were to become the next senator from New Hampshire. I can think of many members of Congress who are more disloyal to the American nation than the nominally foreign Steyn would be.

Citizen is a good general framework for thinking about nationality, but it only goes so far. Unfashionably voelkisch as it may sound, I think we all know at a gut level that there are foreigners and then there are, you know, foreigners.

Anonymous said...

The U.S. government doesn't care if Americans become foreign cabinet members or legislators. Even back in the 1980s, when the U.S. government was much more anti-dual-citizenship than it is today, they let Meir Kahane keep his U.S. citizenship (thanks to the ACLU)

The US government used to care if Americans even voted in a foreign election, let alone held legislative or cabinet positions. But Beys Afroyim (born Ephraim Bernstein) decided he did not like that rule, and challenged it all the way to the Supreme Court which ruled in his favor in 1967.

Felix M said...

A friend of mine has been contracted to provide economic advice to several foreign governments. I take it that no-one would object to this, but it doesn't differ significantly from the case under discussion.

More interestingly, to me, it's not uncommon to obtain legal advice from foreign lawyers (eg in transnational law). But this doesn't translate into appointing foreigners as judges, even in specialized commercial jurisdictions.

(One slight exception: I understand that Australian nationals sit as judges for Pacific microstates.)

Mr. Anon said...

"Allophone said...

In theory, yes. In reality, the citizenship review is discretionary, which is why it didn't affect Stanley Fischer. The only time the State Department actually enforces this rule is when a dual citizen tries to become an ambassador to Washington, like Michael Oren, cuz otherwise he'd be able to live in the U.S. tax-free."

Yeah - cause the only thing that's relevant about the whole deal is where one pays taxes. Not where one's allegiance lies, or whether someone might be trying to exert influence on behalf of a foreign government. It's all..............negotiable.

Hey, you only thought it was your country. You were wrong.

ysv_rao said...

What was Netanyahu thinking?"

Possibly the same thing the Israeli parliament was thinking when they offered Einstein the presidency of Israel.

I get the impression that the central bank in Israel is as intrusive in the economy as it is Fed is in the American economy.

If so, then it is really a ceremonial position

Its not neccesarily because he is a tribesman though it is a plus obviously.Also Summers like Netanyahu is an MIT guy so there is that camaraderie

If the central bank is the equivalent to the Fed, then Netanyahu is just a wannabe bone headed globalist of the Hapsburg/Bush variety


Also worth noting, the Music Director of Israel Philharmonic Orchestra is Indian Parsi Zubin Mehta.

-Dr Van Nostrand

Anonymous said...

David Frum is a Canadian citizen and worked for the Bush Admin. He became a US citizen as well in 2007. He's also a member of the Canada-Israel Committee and AIPAC.

Matthew said...

Re: Beys Afroyim - so you have a guy born in Poland, who came voluntarily to the US in 1912 at the age of 19, skipped out on military service during WWI (when he was 24-25), was naturalized in 1926, then decides to settle in Israel, where he votes in local elections.

It's one thing to exercise caution when revoking the citizenship of a native-born American, but this guy was American by choice, and made a conscious decision to leave by a choice - to a country he was happy to split time between after the SCOTUS rules his way.

Our globetrotting elite: a right to live everywhere, a right to suck anyone dry for "rights" and benefits, and an obligation to no one.

Reminds me of Facebook co-founder Eduardo Saverin: his family came to the US because little Eduardo's life was supposedly in danger, then Saverin makes billions on Facebook and decides to skip town for Singapore in order to avoid paying taxes.

ysv_rao said...


David Frum is a Canadian citizen and worked for the Bush Admin. He became a US citizen as well in 2007. He's also a member of the Canada-Israel Committee and AIPAC."

Also Dinesh DSouza was a domestic policy advisor in the Reagan administration straight out of Dartmouth. He was still an Indian national back then.

ysv_rao said...


Re: Beys Afroyim - so you have a guy born in Poland, who came voluntarily to the US in 1912 at the age of 19, skipped out on military service during WWI (when he was 24-25), was naturalized in 1926, then decides to settle in Israel, where he votes in local elections."

You were too busy Jew baiting to notice a couple of things

1) The era of WWI to WWII was one of total flux ,old countries and empires were gobbled up and new ones created so this fellow who leaves one country ,comes to another and ditches it for a new one is hardly unique
2) Why exactly should he serve in WWI which was unpopular from the getgo . Woodrow Wilson got the Presidency by vowing keep U.S out of the Great War. What better way of assimilating than to oppose an unpopular war
3)You left implied that Jews dont serve in wars due to their decietful,disparate and cowardly nature or some such nonsense. Well German Jews served their country honorably in WWI. Jews were proportionally represented in the U.S armed forces in WWII



Our globetrotting elite: a right to live everywhere, a right to suck anyone dry for "rights" and benefits, and an obligation to no one."

The elite is not restricted to those hated tribespeople just FYI most the elite of pre WWI Europe were German gentiles and they used their countries men and resources in cynical wars to further their noxious personal agendas.You dont seem particularly disturbed by THEM

Reminds me of Facebook co-founder Eduardo Saverin: his family came to the US because little Eduardo's life was supposedly in danger,"

I like the "supposedly" touch...

then Saverin makes billions on Facebook and decides to skip town for Singapore in order to avoid paying taxes."

Ive got news for you.Having lived in Dubai and other places,there is a whole host of Americans find the tax system oppressive and if they had the choice ala Saverin to renounce their citizenship and head back to their home country they would take it in a heart beat
Fred Reed did something similar in Mexico
And Jim Rogers as well
You dont seem to have any issue with THEM..gee I wonder why?

Cail Corishev said...

"There is really no way to describe how batshit crazy many Mormon Republican politicians are on the issue of immigration."

Maybe they figure if they can bring the heathens here, they can proselytize to them here, and won't have to go overseas on those mission trips. That seems to be what some Catholic bishops think: rather than send valuable priests to preach in shacks in some third-world country, just bring the third-worlders to our air-conditioned cathedrals and preach to them here. Much more pleasant, and we have plenty of empty pews.

Anonymous said...

Americans take jobs in transnational organizations that are actively, openly, hostile to the US and act purposefully to undermine US sovereignty and I have never heard Steve say a single word. The 99.8 % of humanity needs to stop worrying so much about the activities of the .2 percent.

decoy said...

". Jews were proportionally represented in the U.S armed forces in WWII."

Yes, that's true. I remember the manager where I worked talking about training during WWII (he was as Jewish as they come) and saying he was more worried about accidents and friendly fire during training than about being in the actual war. I think Jews served at the same rate as non-Jews, and they served in dangerous duties.

David said...

Larry is pretty much indicating lately that he isn't available for regular jobs. He might already have a job, or a business, that we don't know about.

Anonymous said...

The faculty of deleting comments which identify mass immigration as genocidal.

Anonymous said...

You were too busy Jew baiting to notice a couple of things


Regardless of whether or not he was Jew baiting, the point is it was a Jew who challenged, fought and successfully overturned this law. I am sure other ethnics throughout the 20th century encountered obstacles if they tried to maintain ties to another nation. But it took Mr. Afroyim to overturn the law.

Ive got news for you.Having lived in Dubai and other places,there is a whole host of Americans find the tax system oppressive and if they had the choice ala Saverin to renounce their citizenship and head back to their home country they would take it in a heart beat
Fred Reed did something similar in Mexico
And Jim Rogers as well
You dont seem to have any issue with THEM..gee I wonder why?


Saverin is not the guy you want to defend. This guy is bad for the Jews because he reinforces negative stereotypes. Even Senator Schumer dislikes this guy and tried to enact special legislation to punish him.

As far as Fred Reed and Jim Rogers, they have not revoked their citizenship to the best of knowledge.

Cail Corishev said...

"As far as Fred Reed and Jim Rogers, they have not revoked their citizenship to the best of knowledge."

They're also not spending millions of dollars trying to change American immigration law so that even more millions can be taken out of the pockets of American workers and sent to their offshore redoubts.

Anonymous said...

"You were too busy Jew baiting to notice a couple of things..."

Did I mention that he was Jewish? No, so shut the fuck up.

The man who fought to end America's right to revoke the citizenship of traitors was Jewish. How is that my fault?


Maybe [Mormons] figure if they can bring the heathens here, they can proselytize to them here, and won't have to go overseas on those mission trips.

Mormons like the overseas mission trips. The problem is that they have very low retention rates with Latin American converts, and the ones who remain are still tithing on Latin American paychecks.

Bring them here and they're more likely to remain Mormon and they're tithing on larger incomes. Spanish-speaking missionaries comprise a hugely disproportionate fraction of US-based missionaries.

Also, the leaders of the Mormon Church have very close ties with rich Mormons - Marriotts, Holdings, etc. - who made their fortunes in businesses reliant on cheap labor. The current head of the Mormon Church, Thomas Monson, was actually friends with

Crawfurdmuir said...

This type of trans-national employment of high-level officials was routine in the days when crowned heads really ruled, and nationality mattered less than kinship.

For example, Prince Rupert of the Rhine, the younger son of Frederick V, the Elector Palatine, served as a general in the army of Charles I. He was Charles's nephew, the son of his sister Elizabeth.

Prince Eugène of Savoy, one of the most celebrated military commanders of the late seventeenth and early eighteenth centuries, first proffered his services to Louis XIV, and was rebuffed. He then entered the services of the Habsburgs, and together with the duke of Marlborough won famous victories over the French at Blenheim, Oudenarde, and Malplaquet.

The German princely family of Battenberg offers numerous examples; descendants of a morganatic branch of the house of Hesse-Darmstadt, they have furnished royalty to Bulgaria, Denmark, Greece, Montenegro, Spain, and Sweden. However they are most famously associated with Great Britain. Prince Louis von Battenberg became First Sea Lord of the British Royal Navy. His brother, Prince Henry, married Princess Beatrice, a daughter of Queen Victoria, and served in the Royal Army, reaching the rank of colonel. The families of both princes renounced their German titles in 1917 and changed their family name to Mountbatten.

Prince Louis's daughter Alice married Prince Andrew of Greece and Denmark, and their son, Prince Philip, became the consort of Queen Elizabeth II. His younger son, also named Louis, served as a naval officer, eventually being created Earl Mountbatten of Burma, and he also became First Sea Lord, a post he held from 1955 through 1959.

Anonymous said...

Netanyahu was thinking that foreign investors would be impressed with Summers, as they were with his predecessor. That is what he was thinking. The Bank of Israel is a very professional organization but the local who finally got the job is not known anywhere outside of Israel.

ysv_rao said...


Saverin is not the guy you want to defend. This guy is bad for the Jews because he reinforces negative stereotypes. Even Senator Schumer dislikes this guy and tried to enact special legislation to punish him."

This is not a defense of Saverin. He is a douchebag like Zuckerberg,perhaps more so.
Just pointing out the poster has a special animus against Jewish miscreants.

As far as Fred Reed and Jim Rogers, they have not revoked their citizenship to the best of knowledge."

Thats because they are a tad hypocritical.Fred Reed sings glories of Mexico while claiming America is going to hell in a handbasket but still hangs on to the blankie of American citizenship.
Jim Rogers is a hyper globalist who said that the management of DC and Buckingham palace should be handed over to the Chinese.The difference between him and Thomas Friedman is that Rogers is far more dangerous in his ability to actually put his views in action for a cut of course!
When I saw him feted by Glenn Beck , I noticed he didnt dwell too long on how he was once George Soros's partner in crime.


"You were too busy Jew baiting to notice a couple of things..."

"Mathew" said

Did I mention that he was Jewish? No, so shut the fuck up."

Are you serious? You mention a guy with an obviously Jewish name and then say he migrated to Israel and the rest of your posts are about wily scheming Jews. It doesnt really take much to put 2 and 2 together.
Looks like you can dish it out but not quite take it

The man who fought to end America's right to revoke the citizenship of traitors was Jewish. How is that my fault?"

No one said its "your fault" LOL! I just pointed out that those were tumultuous times


Anonymous Cail Corishev said...
"As far as Fred Reed and Jim Rogers, they have not revoked their citizenship to the best of knowledge."

They're also not spending millions of dollars trying to change American immigration law so that even more millions can be taken out of the pockets of American workers and sent to their offshore redoubts."

Fred Reed seems to love the Mexicans and I have seen no strong indication in his writings that he is against increased immigration from Mexico.Hey more Mexican summer homes for him
And from the above, I dont think you are aware of what Jim Rogers represents.What does it say about a guy who claims that the Chinese should run Buckingham Palace and DC as they would do a better job?
The Chinese version of the East India company on steroids is his idea of good governance and patriotism