May 10, 2013

Lindsey Graham: Mexico is a "hell hole"



Senator Lindsey Graham of the Gang of Eight explains that Latin America is a "hell hole:"
“We have a Canadian border.... Why are we OK up there and not OK to the south?… Why is one a problem and the other is not? Because Canada is a place where people like to stay. They like Canada. We like Canada. We love to have them visit. They want to go home because it’s a nice place,” said Graham. “The people coming across the southern border live in hell holes. They don’t like that. They want to come here. Our problem is we can’t have everybody in the world who lives in a hell hole coming to America.”

Of course, five billion people live in countries poorer than Mexico, which is the second most obese country on earth.

Maybe Mark Zuckerberg could promote the Gang of Eight's bill by purchasing an hour of primetime on all the networks for Lindsey and him to go on TV live and talk about whatever springs to mind. It would be riveting.

29 comments:

Anonymous said...

Is it just me, or do horizontal stripes make a fat guy look even fatter?

El Gordo!

rob said...

Maybe don't post this one, I don't know if I want to give the bad guys a heads up.

How did that Rico case against a company that was employing illegals? We keep hearing that there won't be an amnesty. Do you think the Junta de Ocho has thought about amnesty for companies who illegally employed illegals, or slumlords who housed them? When they're on the path to citizenship and out the shadows, I'm sure some of them would happily testify against the criminal parasites who abused these hardworking men and women just because they didn't have papers.

Tyson Chicken was certainly racketeering. A few companies go bankrupt in damages and their executives go to prison...We may be stuck with the amnesty, but that would be a fun unintended consequence. Maybe some slumlords could go to prison too. The illegals will probably have to show some proof of employment and living in the US. If the employers or landlords have to verify the info...It would be nice if the cheap labor turns out to be extremely expensive.

I don't want lots of Mexicans or other third world peoples here, but they are fairly desperate. A starving man who steals bread is sympathetic. Punishing the employers...they have deep pockets, and don't have many mitigating factors for their crimes. Juries might see that, too.

Anonymous said...

Look at those lovely New Italians.

Wonder what kind of Mafia they'll be bringing with them?

Shouting Thomas said...

Some of the vibrant people have come to the same conclusion.

See the movie El Infierno.

"El Infierno" means "hell."

Chief Seattle said...

There's something uncomfortable about watching Lindsay Graham, something wierd about his eyes. At first I thought maybe he's an alcoholic, but it's different than that. His lazy eyes scream sociopath, as if left to their own intentions they would lock on you like a laser beam accompanied by a creepy smile, but somehow he's managed to wrestle them down to a dull distant glare. My second thought was how did someone this creepy rise to the top of national politics.

As Sessions points out, calling Mexico a hellhole isn't very accurate. I've only been to Baja, but outside of a few streets in Tijuana I'd characterize that as very nice. Hanoi in August is a hellhole.

carol said...

Of course it's a hellhole - too many Mexicans there.

Anonymous said...

The article states that Mexico's economy is growing at a faster pace than America's.

Would be interesting to see if there is a graphed-out correlation between Country A's economic growth and the mass departure of Country A's citizenry to Country B.

- Gatsby

Anonymous said...

So... I don't get his stance. He's apart of the Gang of Eight, but he points out that we can't take in everybody who lives in hellholes (something the Gang of Eight ultimately seems to believe). What does he argue for?

sd said...

Canada is probably a better place to stay than USA. It might not be long before they start worrying about their southern border.

pat said...

It's not the hole it's the devils.

I had a Canadian wife for awhile. I used to always dread those Christmas visits to her parents. Most of Canada in uninhabitable - literally. Edmonton I believe is the largest real city that far north. Almost all of the Canadian population lives within 50 miles of the US border. Canada looks big on the map but it is really just a narrow strip of land fit for humans.

Mexico has Acapulco - the site of Elvis Presley movies. Everyone frolics in the sun half naked. In Edmonton the whole city is under glass like a Martian colony.

No, Senator. Canada is the hellhole.

But you are skirting around the real issue - the quality of the inhabitants. The most trouble free Americans are rural people in places like North Dakota. They commit no crimes they hold steady jobs and they behave themselves. Canada is filled with such people. They are a bit boring but they won't rob you or cheat you.

Mexicans are ruining a perfectly good tropical paradise and we need to keep them from doing the same here.

Albertosaurus

Anonymous said...

Hilarious.

JI said...

This is sure ironic coming from Senator Amnesty himself! What a hypocrite.

Anonymous said...

It's not clear what exactly he meant. Hell "hole" might have positive connotations for someone like Lindsey Graham, sort of like glory hole.

David said...

I'm in a decent neighborhood in Mexico City, so that's like Brooklyn in the first stages of the post-Dinkins gentrification, but I can report that, no, my Mexico isn't a hell hole.

From other people who live here, I hear that compared to living in the small towns, it's Mexico City that's the hell hole.

Mileage differs, I guess. Now to Starbucks for my lunch break.

Anonymous said...

Just remember, the main difference between Tijuana and San Diego isn't the weather, it's the management.

pat said...

Graham sounds like an idiot here. Maybe it comes with the job.

No one can forget Hank Johnson worrying about Guam sinking if we placed too many troop there. Johnson appears to be quite genuinely stupid. But other parliamentary figures who are not stupid all too often sound stupid.

Chuck Schumer has high test scores but today he's all over the Web being hysterical about a plastic gun. He's afraid (the poor tender soul seems particularly subject to irrational fears) that some terrorist will get this printed plastic pistol through a metal detector.

Doesn't he go to the movies? Five years ago John Malkovich in a Clint Eastwood thriller showed in some detail how to build a plastic pistol specifically designed to elude detection and assassinate the President.

Somehow the republic survived.

Albertosaurus

Alden said...

Listening to Limbaugh, I just heard the radio version of Zuckerberg's Rubio amnesty ad. It sounded even more vapid and pathetic without the visuals to go with it.

Anonymous said...

We had Alexis de Tocqueville to explain America. We need Alejandro de Tacobell to explain Mexico.

Anonymous said...

"Biometric Database of All Adult Americans Hidden in Immigration Reform"

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/05/immigration-reform-dossiers/

"The immigration reform measure the Senate began debating yesterday would create a national biometric database of virtually every adult in the U.S., in what privacy groups fear could be the first step to a ubiquitous national identification system.

Buried in the more than 800 pages of the bipartisan legislation (.pdf) is language mandating the creation of the innocuously-named “photo tool,” a massive federal database administered by the Department of Homeland Security and containing names, ages, Social Security numbers and photographs of everyone in the country with a driver’s license or other state-issued photo ID."

Anonymous said...

He meant "hello ole"

Power Child said...

Anonymous of 5/10/13, 3:56 AM said...

Look at those lovely New Italians.

Wonder what kind of Mafia they'll be bringing with them?


You never heard of drug cartels? And that should be past tense: "they've brought". Hey I know, let's keep making them richer by stiffening up our drug laws.

eh said...

Five years ago ... in an Eastwood thriller ...

That was 1993, Pat. By the way, they have drugs for HIV now, so just let it all hang out in those BDSM sessions.

Prof. Woland said...

Lindsey Graham is a hell hole. He rents it out to the highest bidder.

pat said...

I actually looked up that Clint Eastwood movie in IMDB to double check my facts. But I just read it wrong anyway.

Unlike the 'printed' plastic gun that is anything but concealable. The movie gun is a credible assassins tool. And we are shown on screen exactly how to build one. It's like a YouTube tutorial on bomb making.

As to the snarky remark from 'eh' about me, BDSM and AIDS. I'm flattered (I think) that anyone still remembers my occasional comments here. But BDSM is not particularly associated with AIDS or any other venereal disease. There are almost no injuries either. And best of all it cost far less as a hobby than skiing or tennis.

Gay marriage gets a lot of press but it is in fact quite rare. I'm not going to look this one up but I think it's only about 1% of all marriages. It's estimated that 25% to 33% of all husbands spank their wives. But the societal info black out is so strong that, aside from me (occasionally), mentioning it you never see any mention in the mainstream press or on the web.

The electorate has come around to the understanding that gay marriage is really not much of an issue. Can BDSM not be far behind in earning similar public apathy?

Albertosaurus

Anonymous said...

How about Zuckez change facebook to caralibro?

Anonymous said...

life expectancy

Japan 82.83 #1
Cuba 78.50
US 77.97
Mexico 76.19
UAE 75.94
Poland 75.51
Argentina 75.30

Mexico is hardly a disaster. They are probably better off now than Americans were in the 40's on average.

Many Americans were living in shacks back then.

Mr. Anon said...

"Anonymous said...

Mexico is hardly a disaster. They are probably better off now than Americans were in the 40's on average.

Many Americans were living in shacks back then."

Although they were far less likely than are contemporary Mexicans to have their heads cut off and deposited in bags on school grounds as if they were soccer balls.

john marzan said...

Senator Lindsey Graham of the Gang of Eight explains that Latin America is a "hell hole:"
“We have a Canadian border.... Why are we OK up there and not OK to the south?… Why is one a problem and the other is not? Because Canada is a place where people like to stay. They like Canada. We like Canada. We love to have them visit. They want to go home because it’s a nice place,” said Graham. “The people coming across the southern border live in hell holes. They don’t like that. They want to come here. Our problem is we can’t have everybody in the world who lives in a hell hole coming to America.”


correct me if i'm wrong, but mexican workers in the past (during the bracero program) used to return to mexico after their work is done--because their families and kids still live in mexico.

but after plyler v doe, it became easier for migrant workers to bring along their kids illegally because the USA made it cheap for them to get free education for their kids. and there's no point in returning to mexico for the mexican migrant worker because their kids are already in the states--reunited. they are migrant workers no more.

jody said...

mexico is a shithole, have no illusions about that. it is dirty, it is dangerous, it is disorganized, it sucks.

compared to other third world dumps, it is better though.

it's all due to the people. the terrain itself is beautiful. under the right, er, management, mexico could be a great nation.