President Barry O'Bama visited his ancestral village of Moneygall in Ireland yesterday.
Of course, he didn't realize he had any Irish ancestors until a genealogist looked them up in 2007. But, like I pointed out in my review of Jared Taylor's White Identity, it's cool for politicians to identify as black or Irish, or even black and Irish, but it's not cool to identify as white.
It was on one of these Irish Roots trips that Bill Clinton fell in love with the great Ballybunion golf course. (The two towns that feature Bill Clinton statues are Ballybunion and Pristina.) So far, Obama is lacking in discriminating taste in golf courses, so maybe he'll learn something in Ireland.
It was on one of these Irish Roots trips that Bill Clinton fell in love with the great Ballybunion golf course. (The two towns that feature Bill Clinton statues are Ballybunion and Pristina.) So far, Obama is lacking in discriminating taste in golf courses, so maybe he'll learn something in Ireland.
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Don't you mean Brock O'Bama?
Barry "Spring Break" O'Bama?
This is why those potato munching Irish freak me out. And they have weird skin.
it's cool for politicians to identify as black or Irish, or even black and Irish
Heh, one of my friends is half Jamaican and half Irish, a mix he calls Rasta-Celtic. He's always said he belongs to the two best ethnicities. People do approvingly comment on it when he tells them what he is.
According to Thaddeus Russell's "A Renegade History of the United States," in the past African Americans who behaved badly were called 'burnt Irish,' after the race that behaved the very worst of all.
Actually he didn't realize he had any white ancestors until he realized he had to run for re-election on 8% unemployment, after having spent several years bowing and/or apologizing to various non-white, non-Christian, anti-American foreign potentates.
Hmm... most white Americans have at least a wee bit of Irish in them. I guess this is the only little bit of a chance for us white male shlubs who can't do what Sandra Tsing Loh and Raoul Lowery-Contreras did and hype their minority roots.
He doesn't have any Irish ancestors; they were all English.
His ancestors were English and Scots settlers to Northern Ireland, not native Catholic Irish....just pointing that out....
From now on, Ireland will be considered a land of terrorism:
Obama limo gets stuck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWxxuG2Ru9c
Was it an Irishman that stole your jaw?
"Brock", as you may know, is a familiar name for the badger, a creature with attractive black and white stripes on its face.
bet you he has more ulster scot, but see how that goes over.
I think I posted it before, but Obama is not only directly descended from Richard the Lionheart, William the Conqueror and Charlemagne, but, via the Danish/Swedish king Halfdan The Old, from the Norse gods Woden aka Odin, and Freya, of Wednesday and Friday fame. Pretty impressive (and somewhat ironic as some very far-right Europeans, rejecting Christian universality, are followers of Odin).
Have you noticed that he got his dreams from his father, but his chin from his mother?
It might have originally been triggered by electoral calculation, but it has to be said his Moneygall visit looked like great fun for everyone concerned - even a cynic like me was touched to see them both so unbuttoned - Secret Service guys panicking as they waded into the crowds, the visit overunning its allotted time by 100%, huge smiles on their faces. He's certainly cheered Ireland up - which they need.
Perhaps this is an attempt to promote "the irish used to be black" meme beloved of anti-whites like Tim Wise.
From About.com on Obama's white genealogy:
Grandparents:
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6. Stanley Armour DUNHAM was born on 23 March 1918 in Kansas and died 8 February 1992 in Honolulu, Hawaii. He is buried in Punchbowl National Cemetery, Honolulu, Hawaii.
7. Madelyn Lee PAYNE was born in 1922 in Wichita, Kansas and died 3 November 2008 in Honolulu, Hawaii.
Great-Grandparents
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12. Ralph Waldo Emerson DUNHAM was born 24 December 1894 in Argonia, Sumner County, Kansas and died 4 October 1970 in Wichita, Sedgwick, Kansas.
13. Ruth Lucille ARMOUR was born in 1900 in Illinois and died (by suicide) on 25 November 1926 in Wichita, Sedgwick County, Kansas.
Ralph DUNHAM and Ruth ARMOUR were married on 3 October 1915 in Wichita, Sedgwick County, Kansas and had the following children: i. Ralph Emerson DUNHAM, Jr., born 29 August 1916 (spouse Elizabeth Smith)
6. ii. Stanley Armour DUNHAM
The family is found living with Ruth's parents in the 1920 federal census of Sedgwick County, Kansas. In 1930, Ralph Jr. and Stanley are with their maternal grandparents in Butler County, Kansas, while their father, Ralph Sr. was enumerated with his parents in Sedgwick County, Kansas.
14. Rolla Charles PAYNE was born 23 August 1892 in Olathe, Johnson County, Kansas and died in Kansas in October 1968.
15. Leona MCCURRY was born about May 1897 in Kansas.
Rolla Charles PAYNE and Leona MCCURRY married in Kansas about 1922 and had the following children:
1. i. Madelyn PAYNE
ii. Charles Thomas PAYNE born in 1925.
iii. Arlene PAYNE born about 1926.
Great-Great Grandparents
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24. Jacob William DUNHAM was born 7 February 1863 in Kempton, Tipton County, Indiana, and died 13 August 1936 in Wichita, Sedgwick County, Kansas.
25. Mary Ann KEARNEY was born 19 September 1869 in Tipton County, Indiana and died 13 August 1936 in Wichita, Sedgwick County, Kansas.
Jacob DUNHAM and Mary Ann KEARNEY married on 1 March 1890 in Kansas. They appear together in the 1910, 1920 and 1930 Federal Census in Wichita, Sedgwick County, Kansas. Jacob & Mary Ann had the following children:
i. Hattie DUNHAM born 2 Dec 1890 and died 10 June 1951. (spouse Lewis HERRINGTON)
ii. Mabel Cleo DUNHAM born 11 Feb 1891 and died April 1977 (spouse Hugh WHITNEY)
iii. Frank Virgil DUNHAM b. 22 May 1892 and died June 1971 (spouse Pearl)
12. iv. Ralph Emerson DUNHAM
v. Christobel Beatrice DUNHAM born about 1896
vi. Pearl Marie DUNHAM born about 1897 (spouse Harry MANN)
vii. Earl Dewey DUNHAM born 22 Feb 1899 and died Jan 1980 (spouse Violet)
26. Harry Ellington ARMOUR was born 10 Jan 1874 in Illinois.
27. Gabriella CLARK was born about June 1877 in Missouri and died 15 July 1966 in Kansas.
Harry ARMOUR and Gabriella CLARK were married about 1899. They appear in the 1910 and 1920 Federal Census of Wichita, Sedgwick County, Kansas and in El Dorado, Butler County, Kansas for the 1930 census. They can also be found in the 1915 Kansas state census in Wichita. Harry and Gabriella had the following children:
13 i. Ruth Lucille ARMOUR
ii. Doris Evelyn ARMOUR born 18 Jan 1906 and died 15 Jan 1989 (spouse Balcom).
Ralph DUNHAM and Ruth ARMOUR were married on 3 October 1915 in Wichita, Sedgwick County, Kansas and had the following children:
Great-Great-Great Grandparents
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etc...
Off-topic since the original thread is too old by now:
does anyone else think that George P. Bush is too dark for someone who is probably 3/4 White?
"...it's cool for politicians to identify as black or Irish, or even black and Irish, but it's not cool to identify as white."
There's something I've always suspected of the American "elites". Words like "European" ("They do things so much better in Europe!") and "Irish/German/whatevs" are code words for "the right kind of white person", right?
@Mr. Anon,
Unfortunately, you are correct.
An Hiberno-Muslim conspiracy against the solid Lowland Scot! You finally found your meal ticket!
I guess this means he's got the Irish-American vote sewn up. How shrewd.
So what part of him is Irish, the soles of his feet?
"@Mr. Anon,
Unfortunately, you are correct."
DOES-EVERYTHING-ON-THE-PLANET-HAVE-
TO-COME-BACK-TO-HOW-"DUH-MAN-BE-HOLDIN'-Y'ALL-DOWN?"
"His ancestors were English and Scots settlers to Northern Ireland, not native Catholic Irish....just pointing that out...."
Why because he was Episcopalean. That is a worthless marker of ethnicity in Ireland. There were lots of Anglos who either were catholic and stayed Catholic or who were assimilated into the Irish. There were also lots of people like Falmouth Kearney who converted for social and economic advancement. Given his name was Kearney, a traditional Irish name, this almost certainly describes old Falmouth.
Sorry to dissapoint and all but I felt like sharing. Our view of you people has always been a little resentful. This is why we love Barack. He distains the historical American nation just like we do. For all Steve's concerns about the Jews standing in the way of a self consciously white american identity, it was Teddy who flooded the joint with Mexicans. Enjoy your future suckers.
PS. Just be glad you don't have our plagerising idiot of a leader
obama declared that he was "one of the Monegall obamas".
Is that Monegall in Kenya? Because his surname is from his dad.
Paddywhackery of the cringeworthiest order. Obama's English ancestry outweighs his Irish ancestry by an order of magnitude, but there has been no mention of it on his visit to London. It is invisible, unmentionable - presumably because "the English" oppressed his absentee daddy (although I'd be surprised if his 19th century working-class English ancestors had any hand in the exploitation of East Africa) and because the Oirish lobby will not tolerate any competing claims on one of "theirs".
In fact I wouldn't be surprised if his Irish ancestry is a total fabrication - it's been a must-have for US presidents in recent decades, so it's not improbable that he had his document-forgers take a break from their main current project to cook up a paddy great-grandaddy.
Obama's Irish relatives were descendants of English and Scottish settlers in Ireland. 'Moneygall' in Irish means 'the foreigners thicket'.
The records of his forebears were held by the local Church of Ireland i.e. the Protestant church.
But Irish Protestants have always considered themselves to be Irish, just as you consider yourselves American, though the Catholics didn't always agree. They seemed to agree yesterday though. It was a nice day for both parties - the locals and the O'Bamas.
He doesn't look Irish...
"But Irish Protestants have always considered themselves to be Irish"
This reminds me of the quote from the Duke of Wellington when someone said that he, a Protestant from Ireland, was Irish.
"...being born in a stable does not make one a horse."
I figure its just a warm-up to get the public to think of him as the great hybrid Messiah again for 2012.
'This reminds me of the quote from the Duke of Wellington when someone said that he, a Protestant from Ireland, was Irish.
'"...being born in a stable does not make one a horse."'
Of course we're Irish. Grow up.
Go into Ireland and try to tell us Proddies apart from everyone else.
You can't - not by name, accent, job, education (the syllabus is the same), often not even by schools since so many Catholics are desperate to send their kids to Protestant schools.
I'm so sick of Irish American scumbags treating religious relations in the Republic of Ireland like they're the exact same as in Northern Ireland. No Irish (as in, actually Irish, not Irish American) who thinks or talks like that.
There's no shame in admitting that you don't actually know anything about it, y'know.
I'm so sick of Irish American scumbags
Me too. It's not the Irish (I met a passel of them in college and they seemed okay), and it's not the Americans with Irish ancestry (I'm one, and growing up in the south you're hip deep in them), it's the Irish-Americans. Yankees, mostly.
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