Adam Carolla, an improv comedian, podcaster, and versatile, hard-working C-list celebrity, has been widely denounced for telling an interviewer about running a TV show:
“They make you hire a certain number of chicks, and they’re always the least funny on the writing staff. The reason why you know more funny dudes than funny chicks is that dudes are funnier than chicks."
Remarkably, one commentator, Kyria Abrahams, went out and did some original research on this question. She watched ten short sets by by working (but not famous) stand-up comedians, mostly on late-night TV -- five women and five men -- and wrote down the topics of their bits:
Female Comics:
Apartment is annoying
Bathroom attendants
Being a female comedian (x2)
Cosmo Magazine
Dating is awkward (x2)
Diamonds
Did poorly in school
Doesn’t want kids because she’s “selfish”
Gay marriage
Gynecologists/pap smears
Hangovers
Hates New York
Her body (x2)
Her mom (x2)
Her vagina
How guys hit on her
It’s hard being a woman, putting on makeup, and wearing heels and stuff
Jizz
Just got engaged
Just went through a breakup
Masturbation
Roommate is annoying
Sex and condoms
She’s flat-chested
She’s fat
She’s too pretty to do standup (x2)
What she’s wearing
What/who she looks like (x2)
Yoga
Male comics:
Alaska
Being thanked on an elevator
Clichés people use
Free AIDS clinics
God won’t help you bowl/God doesn’t exist
Having sex with animals
His name
Holding the phone between your ear and shoulder
How to treat AIDS
If the Jews killed Jesus
Jail shows
Mayan 2012 prediction
People asking him where he’s from
Pickle juice
The “ethnic needs” section of the supermarket
The age of sliced bread
The Cyclone at Coney Island
The Roman Empire
The storylines behind rollercoasters
Vegan soul food
What/who he looks like (x2)
White chocolate is racist
The men's topics simply sound more likely to be funny: they are familiar enough to be comprehensible but not so familiar that you'd have to be a genius to come up with a truly fresh joke on, say, "just went through a break-up."
In general, men are interested in a wider and less personally relevant range of subjects than women, while women focus more on their own lives and those of the people around them. As a man who is highly interested in an impractically wide range of subjects of little personal import, I say, Thank God for Women.
Methodological Note: The better way to do this to avoid unconscious selection bias is to draw randomly or completely from somebody else's list created for some other purpose: Rising Comics of 2012 or whatever. But, it's still a pleasure to see somebody do a little research.
Methodological Note: The better way to do this to avoid unconscious selection bias is to draw randomly or completely from somebody else's list created for some other purpose: Rising Comics of 2012 or whatever. But, it's still a pleasure to see somebody do a little research.
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"The 'ethnic needs' section of the supermarket"
that made me chuckle and i don't even know what the joke was. (^_^)
As a man who is highly interested in an impractically wide range of subjects of little personal import, I say, Thank God for Women.
Not the punchline I would've come up with.
Remember when you'd go to a bar with a bunch of your male friends and that one whipped loser would bring his girlfriend and everyone would spend the entire night wishing she wasn't there?
I imagine that's how Carolla feels about writers' rooms.
"White chocolate is racist"
LOL w/o even hearing the 'bit'.
The extent of the difference between the two lists is fascinating.
I'm reminded of those tests that measure divergent thinking - coming up with novel connections, variations on a theme, etc.
On that measure, leaving aside if a joke is personal/impersonal, funny/unfunny, the gap is enormous.
There is an old saying, "don't laugh at people, laugh with them." Women tend to be much meaner than men and they like go for ad hominin humor. I have a friend who thinks he is funny but he can only crack practical jokes. He likes to watch people hurt themselves. Like cynicism, it is the lowest form of wit.
It's just patriarchy with its default male reference frame so that women have to be more personal if they want their voices to be heard.
Carolla's movie The Hammer had some discussions about how blacks had better metabolism or something along that line.
A light-hearted comedy about how a 40-year old man makes it to the olympics. Apparently the movie got rated-R for violence.
As a man who is highly interested in an impractically wide range of subjects of little personal import, I say, Thank God for Women.
Don't put the pussy on the pedestal bro.
@ hbd chick said"
> "The 'ethnic needs' section of the supermarket"
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> that made me chuckle and i don't even know what the joke was. (^_^)
Yeah, I chuckled at that and "white chocolate is racist".
Steve is write: the male list of topics is just inherently funnier.
Male comedian: Why are men funnier than women?
Women: That's Not Funny!
"Jews are funnier than wasps. "
Is that really true? I know about the catskills and the history of Jewish comedians like Lenny Bruce, the Stooges, the Marx Brothers, the list goes on and on.
But ask this question: "What have you done for me lately?"
Jerry Seinfeld has never been that funny to me. He was on the show of course, but very little of his standup or act strikes me as funny. Come to think of it George Burns wasn't that funny.
Wow I just checked this wiki page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_comedians
I can't say I'm a student of comedy, but Don Rickles and the Stooges are the only acts there I think are hall of fame quality.
Fran Drescher is apparently my favorite female jewish comedian. How sad is that?
The Stooges are gods of course.
Jewish people must have the funny in them though, Futurama is supposed to be jewish humor, and that is funny as heck.
Other than the Stooges though, I can't think of a single Jewish comedian I would throw up there with Bill Hicks or Eddie Izzard.
As regards women, I just don't think they are in the same ballpark when it comes to humor.
I have no reaction to lesbianism, either pro or con. But a little part of me cries for lesbians every time I see Ellen Degeneres takes the stage. She's awful. Terrible. Not funny in the slightest.
Women can do humor though, but not standup. Absolutely Fabulous is hysterical. Elaine was funny on Seinfeld. Maybe it's just that standup isn't their thing.
A gag from a (male) comedian I recall from 30 years ago: "Telling jokes to your mom is like doing a magic tricks for your dog."
That applies to women in general, to some extent.
BTW, is it possible Lewis Black is a woman? He's not funny either.
This also calls Steve's law of female journalism to mind. Comedy is an emotional enterprise. The subjects women are emotionally invested in are the same in both fields. I bet it applies everywhere else. What are the main subjects of female music, art, politics, etc?
"You might be opposed to white Americans living three families to a house, but white Americans never do that,"
Maybe not families, but in college neighborhoods a bunch of white students may rent a house, take up street parking, throw parties, hang out on the street and wake up on the lawn hung over..this has caused homeowners to get similar restrictions on parking and occupancy passed in my town.
Carolla usually says "all things being equal." He likened the male/female comedy thing to betting the odds...Kenyan marathoners over Eskimo marathoners. Carolla is great on Mexican immigration, black men not sticking around to raise their kids, and the prevalence of Jews in Hollywood...
"As a man who is highly interested in an impractically wide range of subjects of little personal import, I say, Thank God for Women."
First of all, women are more important? There is more to the value of a human being than breeding babies Sailer, something that even a cow can do.
And why would you thank women for being incredibly mediocre? The most amazing characteristic of the female gender is mediocrity. Always in the safe middle, never taking risks, etc. They have zero creativity and imgagination, and most of their "skills" revolve around manipulation and deceit. Not only that, women have zero individuality and they dedicate their lives to being "social" and "on the norm". Here are Shoppenhauer's words on women:
On Women.
by
Arthur Schopenhauer
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These few words of Jouy, Sans les femmes le commencement de notre vie seroit privé de secours, le milieu de plaisirs et la fin de consolation, more exactly express, in my opinion, the true praise of woman than Schiller’s poem, Würde der Frauen, which is the fruit of much careful thought and impressive because of its antithesis and use of contrast. The same thing is more pathetically expressed by Byron in Sardanapalus, Act i, Sc. 2:—
“The very first
Of human life must spring from woman’s breast,
Your first small words are taught you from her lips,
Your first tears quench’d by her, and your last sighs
Too often breathed out in a woman’s hearing,
When men have shrunk from the ignoble care
Of watching the last hour of him who led them.”
Both passages show the right point of view for the appreciation of women.
One need only look at a woman’s shape to discover that she is not intended for either too much mental or too much physical work. She pays the debt of life not by what she does but by what she suffers—by the pains of child-bearing, care for the child, and by subjection to man, to whom she should be a patient and cheerful companion. The greatest sorrows and joys or great exhibition of strength are not assigned to her; her life should flow more quietly, more gently, and less obtrusively than man’s, without her being essentially happier or unhappier.
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Women are directly adapted to act as the nurses and educators of our early childhood, for the simple reason that they themselves are childish, foolish, and short-sighted—in a word, are big children all their lives, something intermediate between the child and the man, who is a man in the strict sense of the word. Consider how a young girl will toy day after day with a child, dance with it and sing to it; and then consider what a man, with the very best intentions in the world, could do in her place.
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With girls, Nature has had in view what is called in a dramatic sense a “striking effect,” for she endows them for a few years with a richness of beauty and a, fulness of charm at the expense of the rest of their lives; so that they may during these years ensnare the fantasy of a man to such a degree as to make him rush into taking the honourable care of them, in some kind of form, for a lifetime—a step which would not seem sufficiently justified if he only considered the matter. Accordingly, Nature has furnished woman, as she has the rest of her creatures, with the weapons and implements necessary for the protection of her existence and for just the length of time that they will be of service to her; so that Nature has proceeded here with her usual economy. Just as the female ant after coition loses her wings, which then become superfluous, nay, dangerous for breeding purposes, so for the most part does a woman lose her beauty after giving birth to one or two children; and probably for the same reasons.
(continued II...)
Then again we find that young girls in their hearts regard their domestic or other affairs as secondary things, if not as a mere jest. Love, conquests, and all that these include, such as dressing, dancing, and so on, they give their serious attention.
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The nobler and more perfect a thing is, the later and slower is it in reaching maturity. Man reaches the maturity of his reasoning and mental faculties scarcely before he is eight-and-twenty; woman when she is eighteen; but hers is reason of very narrow limitations. This is why women remain children all their lives, for they always see only what is near at hand, cling to the present, take the appearance of a thing for reality, and prefer trifling matters to the most important. It is by virtue of man’s reasoning powers that he does not live in the present only, like the brute, but observes and ponders over the past and future; and from this spring discretion, care, and that anxiety which we so frequently notice in people. The advantages, as well as the disadvantages, that this entails, make woman, in consequence of her weaker reasoning powers, less of a partaker in them. Moreover, she is intellectually short-sighted, for although her intuitive understanding quickly perceives what is near to her, on the other hand her circle of vision is limited and does not embrace anything that is remote; hence everything that is absent or past, or in the future, affects women in a less degree than men. This is why they have greater inclination for extravagance, which sometimes borders on madness. Women in their hearts think that men are intended to earn money so that they may spend it, if possible during their husband’s lifetime, but at any rate after his death.
As soon as he has given them his earnings on which to keep house they are strengthened in this belief. Although all this entails many disadvantages, yet it has this advantage—that a woman lives more in the present than a man, and that she enjoys it more keenly if it is at all bearable. This is the origin of that cheerfulness which is peculiar to woman and makes her fit to divert man, and in case of need, to console him when he is weighed down by cares. To consult women in matters of difficulty, as the Germans used to do in old times, is by no means a matter to be overlooked; for their way of grasping a thing is quite different from ours, chiefly because they like the shortest way to the point, and usually keep their attention fixed upon what lies nearest; while we, as a rule, see beyond it, for the simple reason that it lies under our nose; it then becomes necessary for us to be brought back to the thing in order to obtain a near and simple view. This is why women are more sober in their judgment than we, and why they see nothing more in things than is really there; while we, if our passions are roused, slightly exaggerate or add to our imagination.
The older I get, the more I realize that patriarchy is right. Women need to be protected from themselves and kept away from positions of power.
Adam Carolla is easily the most HBD-influenced star today. I doubt he's ever read Steve but the views are there. Carolla worked construction in South California for many years where he worked along side Mexican guys. On top of that, he's a parent of twins.
Inherently funnier to the (male) Steve Sailer, of course...
More practically, since a woman's life is of interest primarily to herself and her friends, those topics don't translate as well to people not in her circle. Women aren't going to be as interested in another woman's struggles as men are in the general topic of, say, holding your cellphone in a given position.
I agree that women tend to make the important decisions because they're not worrying themselves about politics or things like that of little local import. The male tendency to be interested in the Big Questions made sense when you were arguing whether the tribe should move to that new hunting ground by the river, but now...?
Men gain a breeding advantage by being funny. Sociobiologists suggest this goes way back. The number of times you hear a woman say "Because he makes me laugh" is far greater than men saying "Because she makes me laugh." The reasons why are speculative, but amusing in themselves.
Dave Barry wrote a bit about "joke-storage" decades ago, but he was right. I know a few women who can tell a joke well. Yet most women butcher the telling.
Jews are funnier than wasps.
PG Wodehouse? Name me one Jewish writer who has more wit than say, Noel Coward, Oscar Wilde or Swift.
How can you tell when you're in a WASP neighborhood?
The homes are very large and the lawns are well-cared for.
Why do WASPs have such large balls?
Because they find it difficult to hold small intimate gatherings without slighting family, friends or business acquaintances.
How did the first WASPs come to America?
On the Mayflower.
How do you tell the bride at a WASP wedding?
She's the one in the white gown standing next to the groom.
What do WASPs put on their front lawns?
Sod.
How many pallbearers are there at a WASP funeral?
Six, although there may be more so-called honorary pallbearers.
Why did the WASP throw his alarm clock out the window?
As a histrionic gesture demonstrating his dissatisfaction with the regimentation of his life.
From The Harvard Lampoon, December, 1973
"As a man who is highly interested in an impractically wide range of subjects of little personal import, I say, Thank God for Women."
You would.
Years ago, I decided that there were two things necessary for civilization: technology and the rule of law. Women aren't particularly good at either one. They're great at feathering nests but someone has to build the nests first.
And if you're a straight woman who is quite good at feathering her family nest and also highly interested in an impractically wide range of subjects of little personal import, you tend to find the conversation of most women stupifyingly dull and limited. That said, there are few things in life more enjoyable than the conversation of a woman who is gifted at making good conversation.
As with all things make and female, I suspect that the variance is just greater for males.
In general, men are interested in a wider and less personally relevant range of subjects than women, while women focus more on their own lives and those of the people around them. As a man who is highly interested in an impractically wide range of subjects of little personal import, I say, Thank God for Women.
Right. Intelligent men get their local news from their wives.
Kyria Abrahams:
"Ladies? If you want men to find you funny, I’m afraid you’re going to need to broaden your topics of conversation. You’re going to need to talk about books and things outside your studio apartment in Brooklyn."
When a woman pretends to be interested in sports (or politics or science or art or literature or whatever) because she thinks that's what you want her to talk about, it never works. Phoniness of this sort is unpleasant. You can't fake enthusiasm believably anymore than you can fake laughter. You can't fake knowledge if you haven't been interested in a topic for years and you can't fake originality if you're not original. Men don't enjoy pointless, directionless talk about their interests, they like to hear insights about them that they haven't heard before.
The best advice is "don't be phony, be who you are, straight men like women who're just being women, you don't have to share men's interests to be attractive to them."
Men tend to think more conceptually than women. We can see this when men define themselves in terms of their beliefs, experiences, knowledge and skills, while women usually define themselves in terms of their relationships.
I like Adam Carolla's comedy--honest, un-pc(for the most part.) However, because he's white, his lack of political correctness is hated by the left. Comics are expected to cowtow to the left, to only deride the right.
His major beef is that liberalism doesn't acknowledge or encourage initiative, that it is based on the liberal's belief that he is superior and knows what's best for you.
I used to attend the annual comedy club contest in SF years ago and saw a lot of great acts. It was apparent that women were not as polished nor as funny as the guys. In those days at least, there weren't as many of them. They simply weren't pulled from as great a pool as the men. The likelihood of seeing a really good one was pretty small.
Females with some talent that might have had a chance of developing with practice probably talked themselves out of such an endeavor for the same reasons women once stayed away from fields like medicine and law: those were the franchises of men, and they would have faced trouble getting into those fields; second, women stayed away from fields demanding a high time investment that interfered with chances of marriage, family formation, and long-term family stability.
However, all you have to do is look at the difference between young girls and young boys to see that sarcasm, comedy's staple, is practiced at an early age by boys, and it forms the basis of a developing more sophisticated wit.
Girls simply don't exhibit the tendency to sarcasm as do their male counterparts. Either it's not part of their biological make-up or perhaps they feel they pay too heavy a price when they use it and so then don't develop it. I think it's both: they are not as inclined to it biologically, and they are not encouraged to be biting. The girl in class who blurts out or mumbles under her breath some smart-ass truth is not viewed the same way as the boy who does it. She becomes the story not what she said: ("Wow, I can't believe she DID that-- she's weird," as opposed to,"That guy get off some really funny stuff!")
"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Carolla's movie The Hammer had some discussions about how blacks had better metabolism or something along that line.
A light-hearted comedy about how a 40-year old man makes it to the olympics. Apparently the movie got rated-R for violence."
That preview was funny. Carolla has a knack for saying things that most people won't say (but are actually thinking). He and Norm MacDonald should make a movie together.
An important key to humor is that it often makes light of things others take seriously.
If women in general tend to be more rule-enforcing and rule-following than men are — as I think they are — then it stands to reason that men, again in general, will be more anarchic and rule-breaking by comparison.
Male-humor results aren't always funny, but men start off at least partway toward the goalpost.
Also, in a humor brainstorming session, a bunch of males sitting around a table will try to top each others' outrageousness out of competition, whereas women are less likely to engage in such behavior.
And any female caught among a bunch of humor-brainstorming males is very likely to feel personally oppressed to the point she shuts up. This will be caused both by the content of the humor and the males-competing-in-brainstorming activity itself.
just looking at the dudes' topics made me lol
Comedy is tragedy plus time or distance. It figures that males, comfortably distant from reality, are funnier. It also helps that we don't really mind hurting people's feelings, no matter what we pretend.
Here's the mechanism. Guys being funny get chicks. Girls being funny get ... well maybe just maybe fame. But say an ugly girl who is a stand-up comedian won't pull as many hot guys as an ugly guy who has the same level of success. Because men value looks while women value fame and social dominance more.
Russell Brand is (to my male eyes) one ugly dude who looks like an ape and is not in particularly good shape; nevertheless women go nuts for him, because he's famous and considered funny and socially dominant (by abusing social taboos and being cruel to old guys -- women generally find cruelty arousing in a socially dominant way).
"As with all things make and female, I suspect that the variance is just greater for males."
Bingo!!!!
BTW, to Kylie, you suggest men are better conversationalists than women?
I must be missing something. Where are these guys? Most males sit on couch, grab the remote, watch a ball game or scan up and down, up and down, then decide to play a video game.
Some conversationalists. Even when their male friends drop by and pluck themselves on the easy chair, I don't hear conversation, just things like "nice shot."
Geeeez. It seems a lot of the commenters on here are making comparisons between bright men and dumb women.
How about apples to apples? Or at least, be fair and compare dumb men and bright women.
"As a man who is highly interested in an impractically wide range of subjects of little personal import, I say, Thank God for Women.
"Don't put the pussy on the pedestal bro."
Only penises belong on pedestals in this blog. In fact, pedestals are phallic symbols. Pussy cats like them for a while, but they don't sit on them for too long. Too boring. Like the Cheshire Cat, the grin fades tooth by tooth. Most prefer a bed when at their leisure.
And the "men are nicer therefore they laugh with you not at you" is an amazing piece of bizzaro-world wisdom I'll take home with me for further musing.
However, I think I'll leave the dreary mind of Mr. Pyscho Misoynist with you guys. I gotta life to live.
Mens' claims to greater technological facility is manifest and obvious. Stand up comedians are shameless pedestals. Sometimes they are funny, rarely are they nice, and rarely do they care about laughing "with" you as much as just making you laugh. That's what drives them. Women don't do stand up so well. They are not pedestals. They are beanie bags. I Love Lucy was funny because of the general looniness the woman created around her (one of the writers was a woman btw), not because of pithy comments. It was domestic, though. George Burns gave Gracie Allen the stage because she was what made them funny (at least to audiences at that time.) Carole Lombard sparring with the leading man; Judy Holliday with her clueless child look and her 172 IQ. Brilliant, hilariously self-righteous Katherine Hepburn being put in her place by dourly funny Spencer Tracy, in Adams Rib, one of the most briliant movies on the changing gender roles ever made. I could name some others. Just looking at their beautiful, funny faces in old movies can make one laugh. A clean, bright mirth that blesses both the one that laughs and the one that hears.
But I'd hate for them to have tried stand up. Just the thought is dreary, not funny.
Cybil "ME! ME! ME!" Sheppard's sitcom failed because she had to get all the funny lines.
Cybil... Sheppard...
Did you ever see her reincarnation as a "bi-curious" housewife cum femme dyke on an old Showtime series called "The L-Word"?
Talk about pathetic...
Ugh.
Male customer, but I never have trouble listing a few female comics I find funny, though far fewer from the modern "observational" era. By instilling in them a belief of being something other than what they are, feminism structurally damaged the female comic's metier. Plus I doubt a woman's capability to pull off a Jerry Seinfeld yadda-yadda monologue show--every time we see one of these "rising star female comics" it's a reasonably good-looking specimen foisted on us for no apparent reason (probably corrupt show biz agents).
There is room for more female comics who explore a weirdo/eccentric, low-energy, non-Laugh-Factory style; the male equivalent would be closer to Steven Wright than to Dane Cook. Maybe a notable example of that stand-up is Maria Bamford even if she is a bit overrated. Admittedly these performers inevitably blur the line for a male audience, who wonder which part is or isn't meant to be humorous (see the recent Wendy Liebman post "A Heckler Called Me Fat"). Whereas when a woman on stage launches straight into a privileged white girl's rant I'm reflexively zoning out.
Charlotte: I didn't laugh at anything in your comment. Since even a random collection of computer-generated sentences will have a given quantum of humor, you must be female
Feminism means never having to say you've achieved some of your ideological goals. There are countless female capital-C "comediennes" employed on every TV network every day and it's not enough for these individuals to be rich & successful beyond any historical precedent--for they must also be rendered 100% Above Criticism. I can't take more than 30 seconds of listening to/looking at Ellen DeGeneres, I'd rather be waterboarded
"BTW, to Kylie, you suggest men are better conversationalists than women?"
No. I didn't suggest that but I can see why you inferred it from my comment.
Depends on what you want from conversation, I guess. I like to exchange opinions and information about objects and ideas. People don't hold a lot of interest for me. Gossip bores me. So I tend to have better conversations with men than with women.
"I must be missing something. Where are these guys? Most males sit on couch, grab the remote, watch a ball game or scan up and down, up and down, then decide to play a video game."
Well, that's horrid. But is it really any worse than the females who watch those reality talent shows and get all caught up in who won and who lost?
Men are thinkers, Women are feelers.
Thoughts are funny, feelings aren't.
Simple.
Young men tend to be more witty than young women.
But this seems to reverse with age. By late middle age many men become pompous, and pompous people aren't intentionally funny. Women are much less prone to this.
Men lose their innovative spark, while women keep their verbal skills.
"Charlotte: I didn't laugh at anything in your comment. Since even a random collection of computer-generated sentences will have a given quantum of humor, you must be female"
A random generated list of baby names would have told you that, Sherlock. I don't care to disguise my gender (very often). My goal was to point out that there some women that are marvelously humorous and some men don't evoke humor. A little bird tells me you might be one of the latter.
"I can't take more than 30 seconds of listening to/looking at Ellen DeGeneres, I'd rather be waterboarded."
You can breathe easy, Norville. Anyone who wants to torture you doesn't have to resort to waterboarding. He can just subject you to 15 seconds of Margaret Cho.
"Here's the mechanism. Guys being funny get chicks. Girls being funny get ... well maybe just maybe fame. But say an ugly girl who is a stand-up comedian won't pull as many hot guys as an ugly guy who has the same level of success."
LMAO; since when are women concerned with competing with men in the "pulling hotties" arena?
Maybe white American women are not as funny as men.
Wanda Sykes is better than many male comedians; as are many other black female comedians.
Feminism means never having to say you've achieved some of your ideological goals.
Feminisim isn't even an ideology - it's just one of myriad jabs and feints which the Frankfurt School unleashed in an effort to enslave, destroy and eradicate Western Civilization.
LMAO; since when are women concerned with competing with men in the "pulling hotties" arena?
I demur.
"However, I think I'll leave the dreary mind of Mr. Pyscho[sic] Misoynist[sic] with you guys."
Was this meant as a joke?
Troofie, since the distaff side of the comedic wars is most popularly represented by the likes of Ellen Degeneres, Paula Poundstone and Margaret Cho, I have to ask if you're really as obtuse as you seem to be.
Funny women seem to have a thing for vagina.
There was a black woman temping in my friend's office, who was a comedian. She was hilarious in a way I don't think other races (women) could get away with. She was into colonics and when she found out the black-run clinic had moved with no forwarding address she grumbled a line about those n@#grs taking the s@#t cleaning machines somewhere and not telling her about it. Couldn't believe our ears. You had to laugh. She was also without anti-white attitude to my perception.
"Ian said...
Young men tend to be more witty than young women.
But this seems to reverse with age. By late middle age many men become pompous, and pompous people aren't intentionally funny. Women are much less prone to this.
Men lose their innovative spark, while women keep their verbal skills."
May be the gender reversal traits that occur with aging. Older women are some of the most keen witted observers, some very sardonic and funny, and don't try to curb it much. As many a son or daughter-in-law has learned. Older men, not so much. The humor difference may still be there, but nowhere near as much as among the young.
With old ladies, Nobody cares if they're "feminine" any more anyway, so why bother. Alice Roosevelt Longworth was an extreme example of that type.
"I demur."
"Troofie, since the distaff side of the comedic wars is most popularly represented by the likes of Ellen Degeneres, Paula Poundstone and Margaret Cho, I have to ask if you're really as obtuse as you seem to be."
Something is telling me we didn't read the original poh-ost...
"But say an ugly girl who is a stand-up comedian won't pull as many hot GUYS..."
Kylie said...
"However, I think I'll leave the dreary mind of Mr. Pyscho[sic] Misoynist[sic] with you guys."
Was this meant as a joke?"
Maybe the typos were. You had to pick that sentence. Btw, why are either of us still here anyway? Who cares.
But since you asked, why would it have to be a "joke"? It is how I "feel." Feelings aren't funny, so I'm told (actually many feelings are very funny). Sometimes I write to tickle myself, especially in moments of boredome or annoyance. My comment was not intended to be about me, but about a genre of female comics who are matchless in their own way. I really must keep more focussed. Knowing your general opinion on these sorts of subjects, what's the point of arguing. Peace.
Several years ago, the late Christopher Hitchens did a piece for Vanity Fair on how and why women weren't as funny as men. His line starting at 2:45 is classic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7izJggqCoA
Also, here's Carolla's truly epic rant on illegal immigration. It's really just brilliant. Listen to the whole thing because he makes an outstanding point at the end that is rarely made. P.S. His daily podcast is hilarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy_rOxobTRg
Wanda Sykes ancestry can be traced to a free-woman "it is possible to trace a black family rooted in freedom from the late 17th century to the present."
So she was related to slave-owners and not slaves so that would explain her humour?
Whiskey,"Russell Brand is (to my male eyes) one ugly dude who looks like an ape and is not in particularly good shape; nevertheless women go nuts for him, because he's famous and considered funny and socially dominant (by abusing social taboos and being cruel to old guys -- women generally find cruelty arousing in a socially dominant way)."
Just googled his name to find who you're talking about and forget the way he dresses. Look at his facial features. He has a very symmetrical handsome face; clear skin, long straight nose, dark bright eyes, long dark curlyish hairs.
What makes him look stupid is the way he dresses.
I also listened to some clips of his at youtube. He's not particularly funny, but then again, not many present day comedians are. All topics have already been covered decades ago and now comedian are just regurgitating old material and other peoples' styles.
To the anonymous commenter about the funny Black lady working at your job. That's why I can only stomach Black rom-coms. They actually manage to be funny and provide eye candy for females (hot muscular dudes without shirts sweating and playing basketball, there's at least once scene like that in every film).
Plus they are not as "girly" as the white rom-coms, which seem to be told solely from the female point of few. Black rom-coms give the masculine perspective as well.
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