From my Taki's Magazine column:
With the Washington establishment agreeing that what America needs right now is to double down on guest workers and amnesty for illegal aliens, it’s worthwhile to notice how a serious country such as Israel deals with past mistakes in immigration policy.
In America, we try not to learn from the past. For example, in all the talk this year about a new amnesty, how often have you heard mention of one of the 1986 amnesty’s chief unanticipated consequences: the subsequent Hispanic baby bubble?
This drove up the total fertility rate among foreign-born Latinas from 3.2 in 1987 to 4.4 in 1991 before finally subsiding back to the baseline by 2000. (The replacement rate, by the way, is 2.06.)
Read the whole thing there.
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http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-lays-framework-for-purge-of-online-opponents
"The interagency group will be headed by Quintan Wiktorowicz, the current White House senior director for community partnerships on the national security staff."
Jews were never serious about free speech or civil liberties. They only invoked them to protect Jewish radicals in the 50s and 60s. Now they have the power and are working overtime to take away our liberties.
"Violent extremist groups ─ like Al Qaeda and its affiliates and adherents, violent supremacist groups, and violent “sovereign citizens” ─ are leveraging online tools and resources to propagate messages of violence and division."
If any group is supremacist, it is AIPAC or Jewish Hollywood.
Ah, the old, time honored argumentum ad Israelium.
http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/15/usda-staffers-undergo-cultural-sensitivity-training-told-to-bang-on-tables-and-chant-the-pilgrims-were-illegal-aliens/
"how a serious country ...": surely you can't be implying that the US is a frivolous country?
"...more often prescribed to African Americans. It appears to have helped drive down their birthrate from the peak in 1991."
I didn't know that the black birth rate peaked in 1991. We all know that black crime peaked at the same time. I don't know if there's a connection, I'm just saying that this is interesting. Recklessness is a huge component in both crime and lower class fertility. It's a common denominator. Why would the level of recklessness suddenly start falling? There could be lots of reasons. A change in drug habits, something in the environment, who knows what else?
Make no mistake, an entire generation of Ethiopians was rescued from poverty by doing this. The jig is up now, but 20 years of low birthrates are probably enough to have permanently prevented the African-style birth explosion that would otherwise have surely occurred.
As for the Ethiopians' crime rate - eh, they aren't that bad. They're not in the same league as African Americans, that's for sure. Arabs are the most crime-prone population in Israel, by far.
"Ah, the old, time honored argumentum ad Israelium."
It's an interesting subject especially as the vast majority of US media pundits have two exactly opposite opinions on the best national policy regarding things like immigration, offshoring, diversity etc depending on whether the nation is question is Israel or America.
Speaking of Israel, if you have not seen the SNL skit of the Hagel hearings you are in for a major treat. Unfortunately, this is just a rehearsal, and SNL decided in the end not to do this skit live. Watch a couple minutes of it and you will see why the plug was pulled.
Jewish Involvement in Shaping American Immigration Policy, 1881-1965: A Historical Review
One of the biggest drug dealers in Israel is a half-Ethiopian, half-Yeminite jew.
Israel can't afford a black underclass.
América, France and Britain barely can.
Now Steve, why would we want to learn from the past? After all, we'd have to seriously rethink this drive to the left for the country, due to the failure of communism everywhere it took root; have to specifically re-think Obama's gov't interventions due to the failures from the New Deal; have to re-think electing a black leader due to the fact that they have a far higher record on average of corruption and/or incompetence; have to rethink allowing AA and disparate impact if discrimination was so terrible to do towards the Scots-Irish and blacks in the past; etc. At this rate, the left would never get their BS through...
Steve, America is fundamentally different from Israel because we have an elite that is at war with the White middle/working class, and wants as many Third World people as possible to annihilate the threat to their hereditary rule: ordinary White guys. Who want mostly a non-corrupt, relatively flat, relatively equal society where they don't have to bow and scrape.
Israel is different because their elites know very well the Third World wants to annihilate THEM. They'd like to act as Swedish, UK, American, Canadian, Australian, French, Austrian, Dutch, and Danish elites. They just can't. For them, a lot of Third World people means they get dead along with all their class enemies. Unlike the other countries where they are bigger and don't have as much hatred directed for them. [Compare/contrast the attitude of the most Reconquista Aztlanites towards Whites in this nation versus, say most African and South Asian people's views on Jews.]
I think the direction of Israeli birth rates is better than even this article states. The number of births to Muslim mothers in Israel has not gone up in 12 years. It is virtually identical in absolute number now as in the year 2000. Actually slightly less. Jewish births are up 30% since 2000. Not to mention a net emigration rate among Arabs and a net immigration rate among Jews. And soon the European Jews will be arriving. That is a certainty. Israel is a serious country, as you say, the US not so much. The word "infiltrator" is brilliant.
China supposedly has 500,000 African immigrants.
I had no idea.
Too bad this isn't a white country anymore. Maybe the minorities who live here should Depo all the white people as a preventative measure to keep the white people from getting any ideas.
"Recent DNA studies suggest that Ethiopian Jews are only tenuously related to other Jews. These communities probably had a limited number of Jewish ancestors, travelers who married into the much larger local populations."
Follow the links, there's no evidence for this. The wikipedia inaccuracy is based on the editor not knowing how to read the liberal news media when it comes to race.
Nekkid Louie said...
" Now Steve, why would we want to learn from the past? After all, we'd have to seriously rethink this drive to the left for the country, due to the failure of communism everywhere it took root; have to (...)"
mass 3rd World immigration is a corporate plot, not a leftist one.
As a great service to your readers, I am cross-posting my comment from Takimag:
Wow, that famous Steve Sailer skepticism is nowhere to be found on this one. The evidence of this "widespread resolve" and "direct action" taken by Israel is that some women say they were pressured or deceived into taking the shots. The agencies involved emphatically deny this. There's zero evidence of any "widespread resolve" or "direct action" by Israel. At most, there's evidence that some family planning workers are guilty of this. All that any of us, including Sailer, can do is guess, so that's my own guess: some low-level employees did in fact pressure or deceive some of the women.
But it's some poor, Third World women on one side and powerful, white men on the other. So, no doubt about who's right and who's wrong there. We know how those powerful-white-guy conspiracies work from all those Hollywood movies. There must be a "written or unwritten" approach to reducing Ethiopian fertility by "direct action," because powerful white men deny any such policy. Why would they deny it if they weren't guilty?
Anyway. Why such a high use of injections for Ethiopian women? As the nurse said: they misunderstand how and forget to use other methods (cf. Linda Gottfredson on that). But the evil white men hinted at another important reason in their response. They said that injections were the "culturally" preferred method of birth control among Ethiopian women. In other words, a convenient method that your husband can't find out about. That doesn't explain the allegations of pressuring, but it does explain the use of that particular method for Ethiopian women.
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2013/feb/21/oliver-stone-cherry-picking-our-history/?pagination=false
mass 3rd World immigration is a corporate plot, not a leftist one.
Why can't it be both?
whiskey wrote, "Steve, America is fundamentally different from Israel because we have an elite that is at war with the White middle/working class, and wants as many Third World people as possible to annihilate the threat to their hereditary rule: ordinary White guys. Who want mostly a non-corrupt, relatively flat, relatively equal society where they don't have to bow and scrape."
I don't know where to start. I think for brevity this quote from Fletcher (actor John Vernon) in The Outlaw Josey Wales will suffice.
Right you are, Steve.
The key difference between third world immigration into Israel, and into western Europe, say, is that the Israelis have admitted to themselves they have made a catastrophic mistake - and have actually learned something from the mistake and are trying to rectify it.
A majority of the public in western Europe are in full accord with the Israeli position - hey fully well know that their nations ahve been permanently ruined by asinine immigration policies.
The trouble is the western political class either they are too plain dumb to see it (although they are puffed up with a sense of their own mistaken 'intellectual superiority', this is the most plausible explanation, basically there is no one more lacking in common sense than the 'highly educated') or they are too cowardly (yes, cowardly is the right, fit and proper word to use in this context, as fatal in international relations as it is in hand-to-hand combat)to do anything.
The upshot is that because of the politicians' inaction Britain and France will be reduced to third world status by mid century.
"Whiskey said...
Steve, America is fundamentally different from Israel because we have an elite that is at war with the White middle/working class,..."
"Israel is different because their elites know very well the Third World wants to annihilate THEM."
And yet those two elites are substantially similar in one crucial respect. Guess what that is, Jock Angus McScotsman.
If you were any more full of shit, Whiskey, you'd be a colostomy bag.
Cail Corishev said...
" Why can't it be both?"
er, seriously?
corporatism - Big Munny.
leftism - workers' rights.
Israel is different because their elites know very well the Third World wants to annihilate THEM.
More of Whiskey's lie-back-and-enjoy-it argument. US elites may not face an existential threat from immigrants (debatable) but make no mistake, the immigrants have the numbers so now they want their own country.
"Recent DNA studies suggest that Ethiopian Jews are only tenuously related to other Jews. These communities probably had a limited number of Jewish ancestors, travelers who married into the much larger local populations."
There were slave plantations along the east african coast back in the ancient egyptian era - so Thomas Jefferson Cohen 1500 BC stylee.
Same old, same old.
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"mass 3rd World immigration is a corporate plot, not a leftist one."
It was both - a corporate plot for short-term financial gain and a leftist plot for long-term political hegemony (as shown by the recent election).
IHTG said: The jig is up.
Hunsdon said: If you were in America, that would be so very much a thoughtcrime.
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Nekkid Louie said...
"" Now Steve, why would we want to learn from the past? After all, we'd have to seriously rethink this drive to the left for the country, due to the failure of communism everywhere it took root; have to (...)""
"mass 3rd World immigration is a corporate plot, not a leftist one."
- Some people are too stupid to even breathe. Do you bother to read what someone writes before you comment on it? I wrote about learning from the past about current left wing agendas using Steve's point that we learn from past mistakes. None of the points that I mention were even about immigration. However, since you brought the point up, immigration is one of many things that we can learn from the past about. In terms of whether the left wing is pushing for it, you'd have to have lived under a rock for quite awhile to not know that they are. For example, who has actively prevented the government these last few years from finding and deporting illegals/visa overstays? Who just made it clear in their SOTU address that they want to make a pathway for illegals to become legal? The list goes on- Its clear that the left very much does want to push for mass third world immigration and amnesty for illegal immigration in general. So yes, it is a 'leftist plot'. Its also clear that industry and the RINOs also want this for cheap labor, but it is quite clear that the left wants it, and is going to use whatever duplicitous tools it can to achieve it, perhaps even just directly decreeing it be done, if it can't pass through the checks and balances of a normal govt process.
"Glossy said...
"...more often prescribed to African Americans. It appears to have helped drive down their birthrate from the peak in 1991."
I didn't know that the black birth rate peaked in 1991. We all know that black crime peaked at the same time. I don't know if there's a connection, I'm just saying that this is interesting. Recklessness is a huge component in both crime and lower class fertility. It's a common denominator. Why would the level of recklessness suddenly start falling? There could be lots of reasons. A change in drug habits, something in the environment, who knows what else? "
>If the black birth rate peaked in 1991 shouldn't the black crime rate have peaked somewhere around 2009?
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Anonymous wren said...
China supposedly has 500,000 African immigrants.
I had no idea. "
Maybe, but Africa may be getting the raw end of the exchange. There's a shitload of Chinese going there at this point, and they're stripping away every natural resource down to the kitchen sink from there...
The Ethiopian "Jews" are not Jews at all. That is a scam and everyone knows it. US liberal Jews forced them on Israel. The problems with them are not stopping. There are 5000 Ethiopians in the IDF, a very small percentage, but 11% of all persons in jail in the IDF are Ethiopian. Whether you think this is due to the army or the Ethiopians depends on whether you are a US or Israeli Jew. Israel has received millions of immigrants and some from very primitive countries, but none like this before.
"Maybe, but Africa may be getting the raw end of the exchange"
Dunno about that. There may be all kinds of strange bugs in the African tropics which the Chinese have absolutely no resistance to.
"leftism - workers' rights."
Once upon a time in a universe far, far away...
"If the black birth rate peaked in 1991 shouldn't the black crime rate have peaked somewhere around 2009?"
Looks like someone hasn't seen Dave Chapelle's crack selling baby stand up bit.
Nekkid Louie said...
"- Some people are too stupid to even breathe. Do you bother to read what someone writes before you comment on it?"
Do you? Steve didn't argue in terms of left and right. You brought that up.
" The list goes on- Its clear that the left very much does want to push for mass third world immigration and amnesty for illegal immigration in general. So yes, it is a 'leftist plot'. Its also clear that industry and the RINOs also want this for cheap labor, but it is quite clear that the left wants it, and is going to use whatever duplicitous tools it can to achieve it, perhaps even just directly decreeing it be done, if it can't pass through the checks and balances of a normal govt process. "
To what end?
say most African and South Asian people's views on Jews
Most African and South Asian people don't give a damn either way about Jews and Israel. You are confusing them with Arabs.
Steve wrote, "So Israel has been hustling to finish its border fences to keep out black undocumented workers (or, as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu calls them, “illegal infiltrators”). Contrary to American conventional wisdom, fences seem to work just fine in Israel."
Interesting, Israel calls undocumented workers illegal infiltrators, and they also call Israeli Jews living in the West Bank settlers, not immigrants.
This dawned on me because in the debate on US immigration reform, the old "we are a nation of immigrants" line is being paraded. I've been seeing people like Lawrence Auster trying to point out the distinction between immigrant and settlers, but so far, at least on blog discussions, people seem to gloss over the difference, and insist on calling everyone in American history an immigrant.
Question: Why does Israel not call Israeli Jews in the West Bank immigrants? And if the distinction between immigrant and settler is real, should we insist in the USA that our founding stock be called the same so as to distinguish them from the recent arrivals of today?
@ Moshe (2/15/13 10:22) --
Ethiopian Jews are genetically closer to Ethiopians than they are to other Jewish populations. That does not exclude the possibility of some Jewish ancestry, but that would be a minor component. I would be surprised if you can point to a credible study that suggests otherwise.
mass 3rd World immigration is a corporate plot, not a leftist one.
corporatism - Big Munny.
leftism - workers' rights.
You seem to have no idea what the Left is. Originally, when the terms originated in France, the Right was the defender of Church and Crown, and the Left were the forces oppposed. In France today, the terms retain similar meanings: the Right is the party of order, and the Left is the party of movement.
"Big Munny" is now and always has been part of the Left. It was "Big Munny" that brought down the British monarchy in the 17th century through the regicide followed by the Glorious (Bankers') Revolution.
"Workers' rights" are part of a policy of "class cooperation" (an orderly social arrangement), as opposed to class conflict, and are therefore a policy of the right.
"To what end?"
So individual leftwing politicians gain financially secure sinecures and pork access for life and so "the left" by which they mean feminism, gay rights etc, gains a permanent political and cultural hegemony.
It won't work out that way because
a) as the unifying effect of a large majority population disappears their coalition will start to fragment along ethnic lines
b) most of the immigrant groups are more traditional than white people on average and all the gay, feminist etc stuff will go under the bus as soon as they don't need white liberals anymore - the actual white liberals that is not the ethno-nationalists disguised as liberals.
"Ah, the old, time honored argumentum ad Israelium.
Is this the old, time dishonored argumentum ad argumentum ad Israelium?
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