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Today, though, we learn that Adrian Fenty -- the former Washington D.C. mayor who endeared himself to white gentrifier journalists (but not to black voters) by hiring Korean-American dragon princess Michelle Rhee to fire black teachers -- has a much better plan for using Silicon Valley lucre to get rich enough to buy his way into Presidential Timberhood. He's doing it the old fashioned way: wooing a rich widow. From the Washington Post:
Adrian Fenty and his ‘budding romance’ with Laurene Powell Jobs, billionaire widow of Apple co-founder Steve Jobs
By The Reliable Source, Published: August 8 at 7:29 pm
Looks as if Adrian Fenty took the phrase “Go West, young man” to heart — and has done very well for himself.
Last year, the former D.C. mayor scored a plum job with Andreessen Horowitz, one of Silicon Valley’s hottest venture capital firms. Now we’ve learned that Fenty is dating Laurene Powell Jobs, the billionaire widow of Apple co-founder Steve Jobs.
The two met at a Houston education conference in 2011 and bonded over a shared passion for school reform. In February 2012, Fenty joined the board of College Track, a non-profit college prep program for underserved students co-founded by Powell Jobs.
“Adrian Fenty is one of our country’s great advocates for education reform,” she said in a statement when he joined the board. “His sense of urgency and record of accomplishment is unparalleled.”
The College Track board position led to his job as a special adviser at Andreessen Horowitz. He met co-founder Marc Andreessen at a College Track event; Andreessen’s wife is a close personal friend of Powell Jobs.
Mr. Andreessen and Mrs. Arrillaga-Andreessen were also involved in Cory Booker's pseudo-startup.
"Because she's rich, not blonde."
Sources tell us the relationship began as a friendship and blossomed into a “budding romance” around the time Fenty and his wife, Michelle, formally announced their separation in January. The Fenty marriage had been rumored to be on the rocks for months; there’s no indication that Powell Jobs had any role in the split. (The divorce is close to completion but not yet finalized.)
If you don’t know much about Powell Jobs, 49, you’re not alone. While the world obsessed about all things Apple and Steve Jobs, his wife of 20 years deliberately maintained a very low profile. When Jobs died in October 2011, the businesswoman and mother of three inherited an estate of about $10 billion — mostly Apple and Disney stock — making her one of the richest women in America.
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So, he's taking the John Kerry approach - marry an heiress. Well played.
Fenty's no more black than George Zimmerman... it's all about context, I guess.
Do black men ever "trade up" to black women, by the way?
In the Jobs biography written by Walter Isaacson one of Jobs's friends (Andy Hertzfeld, I think) is quoted as saying that Laurine schemed to accidentally meet Jobs. There seemed to be a gold-digger element there. Now guys are doing it to her.
I'm still surprised though. So soon.
One the key's to Obama's success is that he married and undeniably 100% African-American woman and hasn't been caught cheating. Booker and Fenty aren't going to get the African-American grandmas marrying white women or playing the field. They won't get the dorky white vote either.
What is it about a prophet, without honor in his own land?
Sure Jobs widow pursues Fenty, far more charismatic than icky nerdy Jobs.
As for Preezy, Black women will always vote Black but White women will go nuts over these guys. As they did for Obama. Whiteness fails bc White guys can't bring sexy social dominance like Black guys.
This place will not see another White guy President for generations if ever. Core of America is Blacks, gays, hispanics, and White women. White guys are as metaphorically dead as Jobs.
Maybe this is why Silicon Valley isn't producing ground breaking tech anymore. The inventive, Midwestern pioneer types that founded the place are gone and it's been increasingly taken over by technically weak, politically savvy and minded types.
One the key's to Obama's success is that he married and undeniably 100% African-American woman and hasn't been caught cheating. Booker and Fenty aren't going to get the African-American grandmas marrying white women or playing the field. They won't get the dorky white vote either.
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Bingo. Harold Ford learned this the hard way. There is slim path to power for a Black male politician that marries non-Black. The power in the Black community resides with the woman. Black women will be hard pressed to support a Black man that marries White and certainly not to the degree that they do Obama.
Fenty sees $$$ and is acting accordingly I doubt political fortunes factor much in his calculations.
He may get the dorky white vote since evidently they are increasingly into cuckolding and Black men are the most poplar "studs" in this scene.
I'm not sure how a batchelor or currently single person running for president would play.
I just don't think a person who isn't married can win. I don't have any reasoning, polls, history tidbits or anything else to back that up, other than gut instinct.
Booker and this guy are both single right? I'd say they were nonstarters for that reason alone.
Do black men ever "trade up" to black women, by the way?
Would you trade for an Edzel (the black woman) when you could get a Rolls Royce? And Remember, when trying to get to the promised land, you need the car that can take you there.
By the way, Barbados Pop Star Rihanna's real name is Robyn Rihanna Fenty.
This Fenty dude looks clearly, CLEARLY at least 80%. Trying to pass? He dont have to try.
What makes you think Steve that this guy wants to be President and not just isnt satisfied with making tons of bucks out of Silicon Valley?
Why'd did you lead us to think that this Ms. Andresssen, daughter of Stanford's wealthiest donor football training complex etc was a Republican? She's a Democrat? Seriously?
I know you make the point from time to time, but honestly. Aren't there any Republicans with this kind of alliance building who are super wealthy in the tech sector? Are they all Democrats? Seriously?
I thought you were making one of your wry jokes about Kevin Johnson marrying Michelle Rhee, but no.
By the way, he's had some scandal.
"sunbeam said...
Booker and this guy are both single right? I'd say they were nonstarters for that reason alone."
You are right. And not just married, but married with children.
"Do black men ever "trade up" to black women, by the way?"
Not a lot of black women with $10 billion, Sport. Even Oprah only has a tenth of that.
"(Andy Hertzfeld, I think) is quoted as saying that Laurine schemed to accidentally meet Jobs. There seemed to be a gold-digger element there."
Yeah, well, having read Isaacson's biography of Steve Jobs, I suspect being married to iSteve wasn't a bed of roses, and she probably feels like she earned most of those ten billion.
Only black women give a damn about who black men are marrying.
That's cause so few of them are like, you know, not in jail, on drugs, dead at an early age (before 26) and have an actual triple digit IQ and maybe actually graduated from college and even have a "white" sounding name like Adrian (which actually IS a white name).
Then when you finally narrow the field of these ideal young vibrant black men and there are so few of them by this time, then they turn out in many cases to want to "move up" themselves by marrying white
women. That's the last straw. But for the dudes, hey, it gets them out of the ghetto since the white girls that they're goin' for are most likely going to be higher up on society's totem pole. Plus they know that their families will welcome them in with open arms rather than berate or disown their daughters for bringing disgrace upon the family for acting so desperate.
In some cases, wouldn't they at least be better off marrying a Jew? You'd be guaranteed no reverting back to the norm and in this case, that could mean offspring would be in jail or on drugs. Whereas kids to a Jew would grow up as drs lawyers scientists venture caps, you know...smart dudes. With a genetic guarantee unlike being hooked to the vibrancy.
Do black men ever "trade up" to black women, by the way?"
Not a lot of black women with $10 billion, Sport. Even Oprah only has a tenth of that.
Not a lot of blacks with that kinda bling period. Now to hedge the bets go for another ethnicity and you'd more readily find it.
Again, don't go for the Edzel. It'll break down too easily and comes with a lot of baggage.
Men usually play it safe and go for the trophy. Most of the time the trophy has to be young.
"Why do you want an old car when you can get a new one cheaper? It will run better and last longer." --From Alfred Hitchcock film "To Catch a Thief"
Do black men ever "trade up" to black women, by the way?"
Not a lot of black women with $10 billion, Sport. Even Oprah only has a tenth of that.
"Trade up" isn't a term restricted to finances.
This place will not see another White guy President for generations if ever. Core of America is Blacks, gays, hispanics, and White women. White guys are as metaphorically dead as Jobs.
When will this guy accept that a majority of white women voted for Romney? If he reads iSteve, he should already know this.
Also, why does he never mention the role of the Scots-Irish in all of this?
Anonymous said...
Do black men ever "trade up" to black women, by the way?"
Lets ask it another way. Do WHITE Men ever "Trade up" to get a black woman? By the way?
Think about it. Think, think out there. Think it over. All of the so called Alpha males who are also white.
Where does their sexual preferences usually go toward and why is that the case in over 97-98% of the time?
Why?
In most cases, it simply doesnt occur to white men of alpha (especially) or beta to "hey, what I really want is to bone that LaQuiesha or LaShawna over there! Mmmm-wee-hee! Oh yeah baby!"
Instead most whites are frankly disgusted and generally not attracted to them in that way. Wonder why?
Anyone?
If you've read this blog long enough some answers should become apparently clear. Why dont white guys go out of their way to sleep with and or marry or have a relationship with black women if the clear choice is to have a black woman OR have a white woman. The white woman in about 98% of the time is the first choice. The 2nd choice would be an Asian woman.
Whats the answer?
In fact, putting it even more bluntly, how come most men it simply doesnt occur to them that going for a black woman = trading up? If anything, it'd be a step down. Why is that? Clearly of all races, the gold standard, the Rolls Royce,......is the white woman
And black women know it. So whenever they're dumped for a whitey, it once more conveys the facts of life. Yup, the man (represented as the white woman) won yet again.
But again, we should that question instead. No one ever thinks to trade up means to go for a black woman, specially over a white woman when they have a clear choice.
Why.....is that?
White celebrities with black wives: De Niro, Bowie, Lucas, Nowitzki, some others. It's not a long list, but by any reasonable standard these are some pretty formidable guys.
Boris Becker and maybe Steve Nash, too.
"Sure Jobs widow pursues Fenty, far more charismatic than icky nerdy Jobs."
Seriously? You're trying to argue that Steve Jobs-- one of the most charismatic, widely admired guys on the planet-- was an icky nerd?
Steve Sailer said...
White celebrities with black wives: De Niro, Bowie, Lucas, Nowitzki, some others. It's not a long list, but by any reasonable standard these are some pretty formidable guys.
Perhaps or merely the exception proving the rule.
Again, is this representative of a majority of white men? Not an exception but a MAJORITY?
Also, some black women won't necessarily want to betray their tribe by marrying a white guy, let's not forget that aspect either.
I did say...97-98%.
Let's see: Tiger WOODS. He mary a black woman? Is his current girlfriend black? That's a fair question.
Spielberg: White woman
Steve Jobs: White woman
Reagan: White woman Bush 1 and 2: White women
Kevin Love: White woman
Marc Zuckerberg, of course! He must've married a LaShawna or Shaniqua. Shaniqua Chen, yeah, think that's her right name.
Lets see, anymore to find a majority...
Tom Brady: "latina" with aryan features & German surname
Payton and Eli Manning: White women
Bowie? De Niro? Thats not Alist in 2013.
Paul McCartney: White woman
Robert Pattinson: White woman
John Mayer: White woman
Roethlisberger: white woman
Michael Douglas: white woman
Mitt Romney: White woman
Scorcese: White woman
Warren Beatty; Redford; Brad Pitt: White women
Woody Allen: Lived with tons of white women and settled for Asian
Dunno, I still see a pattern here based on common sense and human nature observing.
White men = marry white women and simply doesnt occur to them to go for otherwise.
Perhaps the outliers are merely that and were, well beta in their preferences and a bit desperate. Or just plain ol' outliers.
But a majority or pattern of one? Nope
I don't know the answer, and this is an honest question: Any guess as to which color Malcolm Gladwell will hook up with if he has by now that is?
But again, the overall question remains. For most races, the concept of "trading up" = at some level, going for: white women.
Answer is getting pretty clear.
You really have to think hard for examples, don't you. Further making the point.
I havent' even gotten started rattling off without counting. lets see....
Michael Bay: White woman
Jim Thome: white woman
Joe Montana; White woman
Phil Mickelson: white woman
Greg Norman; white woman
Macenroe; Connors: Sampras: Agassi; Edberg; Federer: white women
Taylor Lautner: white women
Liam Helmsworth and bro' Chris: white women
David Beckham: white woman
Messi and Ronaldo: white women
Wayne Rooney: White Woman
Chris Pine: white woman
Rory McElroy: white woman
Do Televangelists count as Alist? Yes no? Some of them are well worth some big dough according to Senator Grassley's IRS committee investigation into the mega ministries. Minor celebs perhaps.
Still just rattling off the top of....hmm.
Well, I guess the point is pretty clear.
White men: White women in at least 97% of time. A few Asians mixed in there here and there.
But otherwise, it simply not the case that "trading up" for white men would tend to equal out to going for a LaShandra, LePrecious, or LaTifah.
Must be a reason. Hmm....
"This place will not see another White guy President for generations if ever. Core of America is Blacks, gays, hispanics, and White women. White guys are as metaphorically dead as Jobs.
When will this guy accept that a majority of white women voted for Romney? If he reads iSteve, he should already know this."
Whiskey doesn't care about white women and how they cast their votes. He seems to be a lot more preoccupied with the sexy, sexy black men and admiring their sexy sex appeal. When I read Whiskey's comments on sexual dynamics, I get the feeling that, to him, "white women" is the teddy bear at the child psychiatrist's office- "How is the teddy bear doing, honey? Tell me a story about him. Oh, the bear's parents are getting a divorce too? How does the bear feel about that?"
During his days as a Head of the Class guest star, Brad Pitt secretly romanced Robin Givens while she was still married to Mike Tyson. Brave man.
Back in the 90s, I didn't really care all that much for the Clintons. But I'm as big of a party hack as you'll ever find, so in between hitting the bottle and shoving Paxil down my considerable gullet, I've been doing my best to work myself into a lather over Hillary's pending presidency (or at least over my party's coming permanent, hegemonic hold on all the levels of American power).
But I gotta admit, Cory Booker is doing something funny to me. I'm getting pretty excited about him. In fact, I believe I'm starting to feel a strange ... tingling sensation building in my foot and making its way up to my cankles.
I know that feeling. It's a familiar feeling that I ... that I haven't felt since ... since ... since Barack's "More Perfect Union" speech in my hometown, Philly, back in 2008. Or since Barack wrapped up my party's nomination by shouting to the the raucous, adoring crowd that, as president, he'd lower the seas and heal the Earth. Or since that night on the campaign plane when I bumped into Barack while on my way into the bathroom, as he was coming out of it.
For a split second, I thought there was a chance that Barack might join me in the lavatory, and that he and I might end up in mile high ecstasy.
Instead, he just pushed past me without saying a word, and I rubbed one out in his honor as I dropped a couple Tanqueray and Johnny Walker Red fueled bombs into the airplane john.
But enough about the past. Cory Booker is the future. And he's starting to give me a thrill. In fact, it's making its way up my shin as we speak.
I'm Chris Matthews's leg, and the more I think about a future with Cory Booker, Adrian Fenty and Kevin "KJ" Johnson as the standard bearers of my party, the stronger the thrill running up me becomes!!!
Oh gawd, I'm starting to go into a full, throbbing, tingling, thrill- running-up-and-down-me mode.
Either that, or it's just Chris being shit faced drunk again, and pissing down his leg.
But again, we should that question instead. No one ever thinks to trade up means to go for a black woman, specially over a white woman when they have a clear choice.
Why.....is that?
I disagree that no one ever thinks that. Most men would probably consider Beyonce a "trade up" over most white women of the same age.
But to answer your question, black women are less physically attractive than women of other races, with the exception of Australian Aboriginals. That's the parsimonious explanation, and it certainly fits my experience. I do think women from the Horn of Africa are something of an exception to this general pattern, however, and mixed race women are often quite attractive. But women of predominantly West African ancestry are rarely much to look at.
There is something of a stereotype of African American women as termagants, which is true, but I think that is due to the social conditions among the black underclass. My experience with middle and upper class African Americans, as well as Africans generally, is that, on the whole, they're a cheerful, extroverted bunch.
The only other demographic that is as anxious to mate outside their race are Asian women. The reason is obvious: white men are typically more alpha than Asians, while still possessing sufficiently high intelligence and SES. Blacks are even more alpha, but if some Asian co-ed at UCLA brings Tyrone home, her traditional parents will be forced to commit seppuku. (Okay, they're probably Korean or Chinese and would just hang themselves or something, but it's more fun to imagine it that way.)
"Sure Jobs widow pursues Fenty, far more charismatic than icky nerdy Jobs."
Jobs was the very opposite of a nerd. The reality distortion field was all about charisma. Whiskey, how can you be so ignorant?
Whiskey, I gotta say, if your thing is self-parody, you're a genius. I mean, to never, ever slip in a smile? As nutty as your routine is? Masterful.
But Occam's Razor suggests you really mean everything you say. Which is pretty sad.
Yeah, well, having read Isaacson's biography of Steve Jobs, I suspect being married to iSteve wasn't a bed of roses, and she probably feels like she earned most of those ten billion.
She'd probably feel that way if it fell out of the March of Dimes plane into her yard.
Jim Thome married a white woman. That made me laugh. How did he make that list?
Did Adam Dunn marry a white woman?
What about Kent Hrbek?
Dan in DC
He's going for the gold, apparently, a higher class jiggalo. Although not bad looking she is, after all, almost 50 years old, seven years older than he is. They "bonded over a shared passion for school reform"? Yeah, school reform issues really bring out the passions in people. She seems like Melinda Gates, another too-rich busybody who ends up doing more harm than good. They should stop meddling in things such as education and spend their money for animal rescue, building stadiums and hospital wings, stuff that might actually be useful.
It is true that women tend to throw themselves at high-status heterosexual men. Heterosexual men throw themselves at high-status heterosexual men vicariously through their daughters.
Re: Brad Pitt and Robin Givens. Not a real sista, but he gets points for it anyway.
Anyone with any game at all experimented in their youth, especially at college where there's already some common ground and the ethnic girls were as curious as you were.
I had fun splitting the eggplant a few times, but I gotta tell you, I really don't care about the hair thing, girl.
I would doubt that Laurene Jobs has full direct ownership of Steve's estate.
"In other potential Tame Black Presidential Timberhood news, Kevin Johnson (former NBA point guard, ceremonial "mayor" of Sacramento, and superstar on the Education Reform panel discussion circuit) married Michelle Rhee."
i like kevin, but he should try running for governor of california first. let's see if the molestation charges against (accused twice IIRC) him will resurface.
Sure Jobs widow pursues Fenty, far more charismatic than icky nerdy Jobs.
This is the most laughable thing I've ever heard. Are we talking about the same Steve Jobs here? The guy who turned a moribund, has-been company into the most valuable publicly-traded company on the planet in a span of 13 years? The guy who was so charismatic that he was said to emit a "reality distortion field"?
"White celebrities with black wives: De Niro, Bowie, Lucas, Nowitzki,...,Boris Becker and maybe Steve Nash, too."
Half of that list are European dudes. It's different for them.
I can't be alone in never thinking of a deceased loved one watching me "from somwhere, looking up" as Mrs. Jobs did.
Aye, a Tip o' the Tam to MacWhiskey on calling this one. SWPL Princess has the Beta boy bux now longs for the Alpha man fux. A mochaman at that!
And a smirk to Maya on the analogy.
As Mr. Burns would say- "Excellent!"
"... in April she gave a rare public interview to Brian Williams to promote a new film on immigration reform."
http://goo.gl/pkotA
"Powell Jobs is leaving her own mark on the immigration debate. She and filmmaker Davis Guggenheim recently teamed up to promote immigration reform through the film "The Dream Is Now.""
She's pretty crazy. She's a fanatic self-hating white woman.
She married Steve for the money.
Also, she met him during the fall of 2011, almost the exact time and date that Steve died? How much time did she need to bang a new dude? Barely anything. Of course we won't know how fast they went from "met" to "dating" but probably pretty fast. She has tried to keep this under the radar to avoid the scandal.
Also, did she help him get that SV job? A one-time DC mayor isn't a natural fit for a high tech job. He seems shoe-horned in, so she probably helped.
I take it no one in her social circle she listens to told Michelle Rhee that it's rather rum for a 42 year old divorcee to get married in a white dress.
"Art Deco said...
I take it no one in her social circle she listens to told Michelle Rhee that it's rather rum for a 42 year old divorcee to get married in a white dress."
Either you have two x chromosomes, or your hobby is attending Manhattan gallery openings with Carrie Bradshaw.
I disagree that no one ever thinks that. Most men would probably consider Beyonce a "trade up" over most white women of the same age.
I don't buy that line at all. That's PR propaganda mostly coming from HER camp. Ever see her un-photoshopped? Similar women of her age, Alex Morgan (google her); Giselle Bundchen, I think, would give Bey a run for the money. Numerous runway models, the majority are white, would also easily outpretty her in a flash.
If Bey's not careful, 20yrs from how she's gonna weigh more than Queen Latifah.
TEST: Who's prettier: Beyonce or Princess Kate of UK? Not a trick question nor even debatable....victory goes to Kate, hands down.
But to answer your question, black women are less physically attractive than women of other races,
Now you agree with me. Thank you.
But women of predominantly West African ancestry are rarely much to look at.
THEREFORE, when you want to go to the promised land (in US society the type of woman you have reflects either positively or negatively on you), which car do you need to obtain to get you there?
The edsel or the Rolls? HINT: Go for the Rolls. It wins everytime and by making the wise decision you'll guarnatee getting to the promised land.
The only other demographic that is as anxious to mate outside their race are Asian women.
Black women are not eager to mate outside their own race, period. THey'd sooner stay alone than turn on the tribe.
But overall thank you for basically confirming what I've said.
But go for the promised land, chose wisely. And chose the Rolls.
One thing. Notice that even in society columns that report on Powell Jobs with regards to her sex life, even in this day and age 2013 they still report as if it's back in the 30s or something. "budding" romance, who the hell talks like that anymore?
Did Latitia Balderidge help write this column from the unknown?
How come TMZ or other gossip mag sites dont report on Powell Jobs and others of her stature in the same way they do with Lindsey Lohan, the Karadashians, and Paris Hilton?
Lets not so quickly forget that Paris Hilton's family iS technically a member of the billionaire class. By all rights Paris should've been long married to a fellow billionaire heir or to some dude like Mark Zuckerberg. Paris is the younger version of Melinda Jobs but decided not to go along with that lifestyle.
Again it would be nice to see the mainstream gossip society press report on the private lives of billionaires (Gates, Jobs, Zuckerberg etc) in the same manner that they do with Hollywood stars. These people have way more power both political and wealth.
"budding" romance. How pathetic. Gee, that's swell! Outght to be included in the article as well.
She married Steve for the money.
No different than girls who married famous athletes, musicians, and actors or did you think their hookups are pure true love?
Also, she met him during the fall of 2011, almost the exact time and date that Steve died? How much time did she need to bang a new dude? Barely anything.
Well, maybe she wasn't getting much from Steve for the last decade. What makes you think St. Steven was chaste and purely faithful to his wife anyway? You think tech gurus don't get laid outside their marriges like musicians do?
Of course we won't know how fast they went from "met" to "dating" but probably pretty fast.
Again, prolly the first sex she's had in years.
She has tried to keep this under the radar to avoid the scandal.
Scandal? This is 2013! She can do whatever the hell she wants. Jobs is dead, doesnt matter. Scandal. That's sooo 1950s. Come on. They're probably living together anyway. They should be reported on the same way TMZ reports on the Kardashians and other pop cultural icons.
He seems shoe-horned in, so she probably helped.
No, think so? Really? What gives it away? Think he knows the difference between Apple and an apple?
Fenty's wife is a nice looking negress. Cant say the same about obama's wife.
I am amazed at how wealthy widows are playing the field so quickly after their husbands death!And that too with her husbands money
Maybe I am a tad fuddy duddy, but I think that if you have to fool around after your husband is no more, it is only honorable to give up his riches and start from scratch.
In traditional Indian society, it was the husbands family that had an obligation to look after his widow after he had passed on.Of course she had some obligations and duties to fulfill, she couldnt go around rutting with whoever she felt like.
Of course this had its downside, the family often would not care to provide for her and in the 80s there were these frequent "accidents" where the daugher in laws's saree mysteriously caught fire when cooking.And every now and then you had a lecher of a father in law who thought he was entitled to sample some of the wares
But these were exceptions to the rule
If she did get remarried however,the family's duties were forfeit and she would have to give up a great deal of her inheritance ie she is no longer part of her husbands family.
It may seem unfair at first but think about it-would you as a ghost exactly be thrilled that your wife spends all her hard earned cash on celebrity hunks and pool boys thereby degrading her own reputation as well as your legacy.I know that I would haunt the living crap out of my wife if she ever pulled a stunt like that!
Dr Van Nostrand said...
I am amazed at how wealthy widows are playing the field so quickly after their husbands death!And that too with her husbands money
Okay, Doc, give up that line of thinking right quick. Where is it written that she must get to a nunnery and never think another physical thought ever ever again?
Let us ask ourselves, when the situations are reversed, how often is it that the man never has a woman for physical relations again? Usually they remarry or take another woman and that fairly quickly
Welcome to 21st century. if men can do it so can women.
Maybe I am a tad fuddy duddy, but I think that if you have to fool around after your husband is no more, it is only honorable to give up his riches and start from scratch.
I cannot find in what holy writ that is indeed written.
Why is it fooling around for a woman but when a man does the same thing it is practical and a sign of verility and eternal strength? Let us not be so childishly naive, it is not very becoming. The man would never think to self impose chastity on himself and frankly neither should the woman.
In traditional Indian society, it was the husbands family that had an obligation to look after his widow after he had passed on.Of course she had some obligations and duties to fulfill, she couldnt go around rutting with whoever she felt like.
Was it not INDIAN society that usually required the widow to throw herself on the funeral pyre of her husband and commit suicide? Until the British put an end to that sort of barbaric thinking? I think it is India that did that tradition at one time.
ie she is no longer part of her husbands family.
This woman had three children to Jobs. Clearly demonstrating motherhood and continuing the family line.
Incredible that this type of sexist thinking would persist. We would not bat an eyelash if the roles were reversed and Steve Jobs was alive and the widower and had decided to take another woman. We'd think it quite honorable and well.
Let us be therefore consistent in our thinking and outlook on life. If it is good for one it is therefore good for the other.
Again how do we know that Mr Jobs was the faithful husband? What evidence do we have of that? Perhap this is the first sign of affection she has received in years if not decades.
Such is the way of the world, welcome to how it is at the present time.
riches said...
I can't be alone in never thinking of a deceased loved one watching me "from somwhere, looking up" as Mrs. Jobs did.
Oh whatever. You do know that Jobs was a self professed atheist like his associate Bill Gates? So in his case, it probably doesnt make much of a difference.
This is a dude that was banging the likes of fugly hag Joan Baez for several yrs back in the day and then dumped her for Laurene. He took whatever he could get when he pleased. Leads me to wonder just exactly how faithful a husband he really was.
Doesnt matter now. Its all moot. Good for Laurene! Finally getting some affection. Money does have its advantages, I must say. That old housewife look of hers can easily be corrected with some day spa work, a few nips and tucks and some basic cosmetic adjustments, especially if she'd like to keep her new good friend.
Go get 'em laurene! You've earned it having to put up with the tech ogre.
@Dr Van Nostrand
Sir, I am not sure where you reside, but in America, spouses inherit from each other by default, and this has been a common practice for quite some time. People here consider it neither unusual nor controversial nor shameful.
Most people in America also consider it normal and healthy for adults of both sexes to seek companionship and sexual intimacy. It's not seen as improper. Adults with no living partner often look for and find a new one.
And as a bit of a side note, it's considered vulgar to prescribe how others should grieve for their loved ones who had passed away. It's understood that people are different so during such a time, some throw themselves into work while others go on a sabbatical. Some need a long period of time alone while others require a lot of support and human interaction. Some can't stand the sight of a loved one's grave while others visit the cemetery every day. In polite society, unless the surviving spouse does something truly outrageous, declaring his or her grief to be insufficient based on his or her failure to follow your personal manual on how to grieve is generally looked down upon.
In short, Steve Jobs definitely knew that his wife would inherit from him. And he probably knew that she wouldn't want to be alone for long. After all, she didn't want to be alone when she met Jobs. You don't have to feel outraged on his behalf, Sir.
"Again, prolly the first sex she's had in years"
Maybe because her husband was gravely ill for God knows how long?
"She married Steve for the money."
"Go get 'em laurene! You've earned it having to put up with the tech ogre."
These two were highly intelligent, descent-looking people who had many options. They chose each other. They stayed married for 20 years, till death parted them, and had three children. Why is it assumed here that they had a bad relationship?
Steve,
You tend to give people the benefit of the doubt, wish everyone well and sound sincere while doing so. I'm surprised at your caption under the Jobs couple. Why, do you suppose, Steve Jobs would be unhappy about his wife dating some guy? Should I die in the next few years, I'd rather my husband start dating and remarry as soon as possible than wallow in loneliness and grief.
Of course, personally, I do hate this woman and her new friend for participating in education reform, but that's besides the point.
I have fantasies about half of the people pictured in this post being locked in an inner city classroom and threatened with something horrific if 80% of the students don't score "proficient" on the standardized tests. And Bill and Melinda Gates too. I want them to feel that helpless despair and frustration. But I wouldn't begrudge any of them a loving partner. I'd allow them all a couple of conjugal visits per 24/hr, as a brief change of pace from trying to teach algebra to illiterate criminals while staring into a barrel of a gun.
DVN: am amazed at how wealthy widows are playing the field so quickly after their husbands death!And that too with her husbands money
Feminist:Okay, Doc, give up that line of thinking right quick. Where is it written that she must get to a nunnery and never think another physical thought ever ever again?
DVN: I know its hopeless to explain the notion of honor and trade off to a feminist but I have a hint of Sisyphus in me.
Feminist:Let us ask ourselves, when the situations are reversed, how often is it that the man never has a woman for physical relations again? Usually they remarry or take another woman and that fairly quickly
DVN: There are double standards because there a two sexes.Get over it.
The amount of respect a woman recieves is not due to grrl power as you imagine but fulfilling her roles as wife and mother .Yes your dreaded "patriarchal constructs"
Feminist:Welcome to 21st century. if men can do it so can women.
DVN: Yes and how are the relations between men and women in the 21st century?
DVN:Maybe I am a tad fuddy duddy, but I think that if you have to fool around after your husband is no more, it is only honorable to give up his riches and start from scratch.
Feminist:I cannot find in what holy writ that is indeed written.
Why is it fooling around for a woman but when a man does the same thing it is practical and a sign of verility and eternal strength? Let us not be so childishly naive, it is not very becoming. The man would never think to self impose chastity on himself and frankly neither should the woman.
DVN: Once again double standards are there for a reason.
DVN:In traditional Indian society, it was the husbands family that had an obligation to look after his widow after he had passed on.Of course she had some obligations and duties to fulfill, she couldnt go around rutting with whoever she felt like.
Feminist:Was it not INDIAN society that usually required the widow to throw herself on the funeral pyre of her husband and commit suicide? Until the British put an end to that sort of barbaric thinking? I think it is India that did that tradition at one time.
DVN:Yes I anticipated an argument involving Sati in 3,2,1.
Your ignorance and bigorty speaks volumes. Sati was confined to the upper classes and common people couldnt really "afford" Sati.
And it was on its way out when your beloved British cavalry rode in to save them.What exactly is this stupid argument- imperialism via beta male white knighting?
British women were often burnt as witches.Would this therefore justify say a Moorish invasion in order to "save" those women from their fiendish men?
The laws of Manu are cruel and archaic to our modern standards but they were far more generous to women than any law code of the era.And later it was replaced by the even more female friendly Yajnavalkya.
BTW, Sati really came into force during the Muslim invasions when Muslims would even rape the corpses of Hindu women ,forget about the live ones who were taken into sex slavery.To avoid this fate, they chose to be cremated along with their husbands.
Again this involves a sense of honor,filial duty,chastity,piety,courage,sacrifice,dignity...if I had the time I would explain to you what these things mean but then I remember that you are a feminist.
Again, these Muslims were coddled by your beloved British and they looked the other way when Muslim mobs raped Hindu women.
DVN:ie she is no longer part of her husbands family.
Feminist:This woman had three children to Jobs. Clearly demonstrating motherhood and continuing the family line.
DVN: Yes, so dedicate yourself to your family rather than fucking strange men and if you insist on it then give up your riches.Sounds very reasonable.
Feminist:Again how do we know that Mr Jobs was the faithful husband? What evidence do we have of that?
DVN: Asking to prove a negative is standard protocol of totalitarians and fascists which is what feminists are.
Do black men ever "trade up" to black women, by the way?"
One odd case of an unattractive black women courted by desirable white men was Whoopi Goldberg who was married to Frank Langell and had an affair with Ted Danson in his prime!
Probably the only genuine case where men actually fell for a womans personality above all else.
This was of course her pre View days when her stupidity,bigotry and coldness were not immediately apparent.
Of course, personally, I do hate this woman and her new friend for participating in education reform, but that's besides the point.
I have fantasies about half of the people pictured in this post being locked in an inner city classroom and threatened with something horrific if 80% of the students don't score "proficient" on the standardized tests. And Bill and Melinda Gates too. I want them to feel that helpless despair and frustration. But I wouldn't begrudge any of them a loving partner. I'd allow them all a couple of conjugal visits per 24/hr, as a brief change of pace from trying to teach algebra to illiterate criminals while staring into a barrel of a gun."
Why do you hate education reform? And whats up with these fantasies?
"Why do you hate education reform? And whats up with these fantasies?"
The type of education reform that gets pushed through by these people is pointless and wasteful at best, and harmful and abusive at worst. It's out of touch with reality and doesn't stand up to most basic logic.
The fantasies are less frequent, detailed and cruel than they were two years ago. But they are still pretty darn frequent, detailed and cruel. Also, several afternoon naps ago, I dreamt that my husband acquired the power of levitation, and I now fantasize about that.
And you, Sir? Why do you fantasize of denying a man the right to leave his earned fortune to the wife of his choice?
hese two were highly intelligent, descent-looking people who had many options. They chose each other. They stayed married for 20 years, till death parted them, and had three children. Why is it assumed here that they had a bad relationship?
Tell yourself whatever fanciful stories you have to. Why do YOU automatically assume it was a good relationship? What makes you think that it didnt have any problems? What makes you think he was a faithful husband?
DVN:Yes I anticipated an argument involving Sati in 3,2,1.
Your ignorance and bigorty speaks volumes. Sati was confined to the upper classes and common people couldnt really "afford" Sati.
So I am correct, it did occur in India? Thank you very much sir. I'd too be embarrassed humiliated and ashamed as you should well be that such a barbaric subhuman practice occured. Until the civilizing influence of Her Majesty Empress of India helped to remove such practice.
By the way, modern India owes a lot to the British Empire. What language are you writing in, speaking in, perhaps thinking in? India's parliament, where'd that notion of government originate?
Educational quality (came from Christian missionaries, british ones) government (came from British) even such sports as Cricket (british)
You lot owe some mighty big things as to the development of your nation. If it weren't for the White Man's Burden,.....still be in the dark ages or by now a total Islamic state.
And it was on its way out when your beloved British cavalry rode in to save them.What exactly is this stupid argument- imperialism via beta male white knighting?
Telling yourself what you have to in order to save face is nothing new. Modern India owes much of its civilizing influences over last 2 centuries to Britian.
Kipling had it correct though almost a prophecy:
Take up the White Man’s burden—
And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better
The hate of those ye guard—
The cry of hosts ye humour
(Ah slowly) to the light:
"Why brought ye us from bondage,
“Our loved Egyptian night?”
Translation: We enjoyed dearly our caste system where the lower orders were scum and worthless beatles. Why did you create the idea in us that all are worthy of respect and equal (gasp).
Britain made India better and stronger more educated. This is the thanks in return? But such ungratefulness is the way of the world.
This Doc truly seems to believe in a double standard is a good thing.
Was wondering why he would so ardently defend it until I remembered that it is India which has among the highest rates of child prostitutes and prostitution in general. The sex trade traffic does quite well in those countries including India. In these countries histories, women at best are seen primarily as breeding bulls or trinkets to satisfy and satiate the orgiastic lusts of men. At worst, a woman is considered lower than the dust and is not to be trusted and even imprisoned for even the slightest offense at a moment's notice.
So it does make sense in a round about way. His cultural biases have heavily influenced his thinking toward enlgihtened 21st century practices of equality between the sexes (most notably imported from Britain during the colonial days) slowly they must be led into the light and out from underneath their pagan barbaric nights. Wonder if they'll fully manage to emerge into the light more civilized?
Even money, even money. Especially with the rise of Islam in India. So its even money either way.
So I am correct, it did occur in India? Thank you very much sir. I'd too be embarrassed humiliated and ashamed as you should well be that such a barbaric subhuman practice occured. Until the civilizing influence of Her Majesty Empress of India helped to remove such practice."
Her Majesty is a hypocritical cunt like yourself.
By the way, modern India owes a lot to the British Empire. What language are you writing in, speaking in, perhaps thinking in? India's parliament, where'd that notion of government originate?"
We had republics way before Greeks and Romans.We had Sanskrti,Tamil and Prakrit.Languages much older and sophisticated than English.Surgery,trignometry,calculus,metallurgy were far more advanced in India than in Europe.
Your ignorace remains pathetic
Educational quality (came from Christian missionaries, british ones) government (came from British) even such sports as Cricket (british)
You lot owe some mighty big things as to the development of your nation. If it weren't for the White Man's Burden,.....still be in the dark ages or by now a total Islamic state."
Oh shut up you stupid little troll.We on our way out when we defeated the Mughals so there goes your idiot argument that British saved us from the Muslims
Telling yourself what you have to in order to save face is nothing new. Modern India owes much of its civilizing influences over last 2 centuries to Britian."
British destroyed a perfectly good education system that we had in the villages,as well our trade and industry. About 20 million died in famine during their rule including about 4 million deliberately starved during WWII alone.
Kipling had it correct though almost a prophecy:
Kipling was the son of a syphillitic whore like yourself.So his opinions have little value
Translation: We enjoyed dearly our caste system where the lower orders were scum and worthless beatles. Why did you create the idea in us that all are worthy of respect and equal (gasp)."
Oh yeah and Britain was an egalitarian paradise.Give it a rest.
British may have destroyed old hierarchies but they created newer and more destructive ones which suited them.Give it a rest!
Britain made India better and stronger more educated. This is the thanks in return? But such ungratefulness is the way of the world."
Haha! Yes we should be grateful for supplyin 200 years worth of cannon fodder for her wars which didnt benefit us at all. We should be grateful for 20 million dead in famine.We should grateful that they disarmed a great proportion of the population and then taunted us as unwarlike. We should be grateful that our share of global trade shrank from 25% to 3% when the British were out.We should be grateful that contrary to your idiot view that the British saved us the from the Muslims, they actually were in cahoots with them in putting down these Hindu trouble makers.
Madame if you were my wife,I would ensure upon my death the pyre be a very slow burning one.A painless death is not for you.You should be made an example of
Regards
This Doc truly seems to believe in a double standard is a good thing.
Was wondering why he would so ardently defend it until I remembered that it is India which has among the highest rates of child prostitutes and prostitution in general. The sex trade traffic does quite well in those countries including India. In these countries histories, women at best are seen primarily as breeding bulls or trinkets to satisfy and satiate the orgiastic lusts of men. At worst, a woman is considered lower than the dust and is not to be trusted and even imprisoned for even the slightest offense at a moment's notice."
Only a woman like you. I reckon India mustve had a critical mass of women such as yourself and decided some misogynist practices were a good idea.You may wonder if Western men who are fed up of women like yourself dont think the same thing.
So it does make sense in a round about way. His cultural biases have heavily influenced his thinking toward enlgihtened 21st century practices of equality between the sexes (most notably imported from Britain during the colonial days) slowly they must be led into the light and out from underneath their pagan barbaric nights. Wonder if they'll fully manage to emerge into the light more civilized?"
Equality as in women gets to keep the house and children as well as half of a mans income even if she fucks the gardener( mustve been a rather desperate gardener in your case!) then no thank you ,we will prefer our "barbarism"
Even money, even money. Especially with the rise of Islam in India. So its even money either way."
I dont imagine any man no matter how hard would pay even a few cents for your "Services".Is that why you sound so bitter about money?
I'm going to be voting Lonegan on Tuesday. I know in blue state NJ he stands a snowball's chance in hell against Booker, but he stands a better chance than Alieta Eck.
Madame if you were my wife,I would ensure upon my death the pyre be a very slow burning one.A painless death is not for you.You should be made an example of
DVN is a good example of why we should keep even fairly bright third worlders out. Even when they learn a little object oriented programming and can make sounds about meritocracy, it's just Occidentalism. Scratch the surface and they're Others with profoundly alien and incompatible cultures.
I don't know. Booker may still hold the trump card. He has ties to Schmuley Boteach going back 20 years and appears to have attained something like "honorary Jew" status. This may also explain the relentlessly positive and glowing portrayals of Booker by the media that Fenty and Kevin Johnson never enjoyed.
"Cory Booker & Shmuley Boteach: The Rabbi and the Rhodes Scholar:
How An Accidental Meeting Between Cory Booker and Me Twenty Years Ago Led to Jewish Renewal"
http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/columns/america-rabbi-shmuley-boteach/the-rabbi-and-the-rhodes-scholar/2012/10/07/
"Twenty years, countless conversations, and hundreds of Friday night Shabbat dinners later, Cory today is a much-loved honorary member of the American Jewish community, regularly lecturing at Synagogues and Jewish conferences across the country. More significant, Cory has challenged the Jewish community to live up to its Biblical calling to serve as ‘a light unto the nations.’ In many of the speeches we deliver together he asks the Jewish participants if they study the weekly Parsha, if they honor the commandments, and cherish the Sabbath. What allows an African-American Christian Mayor to challenge Jewish leaders to deepen their Jewish commitment? Because those same leaders are amazed at Cory’s knowledge of Judaism and appreciation of the Jewish contribution to civilization.
I have long believed that the next wave of Jewish commitment will be inspired by non-Jews. In massive conferences like Christians United For Israel we are already seeing a great wave of Christian interest in Judaism and a desire to reconnect Jesus back to his Jewish roots. But Cory has taken this a step further, studying Judaism with a view to teaching it to Jews."
" Cory Booker’s Shady Role in Web Startup Waywire "
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/114197/cory-bookers-role-startup-waywire-shady-unsurprisingly
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